Is it necessary to buy OEM batteries?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by ident, Feb 4, 2008.

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    ident Guest

    Honda Civic 1998 EX 4dr 5-speed

    Is it necessary to buy an OEM battery from Honda? The 10-years-old
    original car battery in my Civic died this morning. Are the ones from
    Sears ok?
     
    ident, Feb 4, 2008
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    motsco_ Guest

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    Anything you want, but Honda batteries are sometimes a good price, and
    look good if you plan to resell. YMMV A dealer will probably charge you
    1/2 hour to do a job you can do yourself. Cash and carry.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Feb 4, 2008
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    ident Guest

    I thought maybe OEM was higher quality. Replacing a battery every 10
    years is better than every 3 years or so. I bought the car with the
    intent of driving it to the ground.

    Cost comparison:
    $100 Diehard Gold North (700amp, 3yr warranty)
    $ 93 Honda OEM
     
    ident, Feb 4, 2008
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    Elle Guest

    Find a place that sells the very popular Interstate battery.
    IIRC around 2004 when I last bought a battery for my 1991
    Civic, I found that Firestone sells them. Subsequently I
    found the little import independent shop down the road also
    sells Interstate for an even better price. Interstate is OEM
    for Hondas.

    Ten years is a long time for a battery. One caveat: Remember
    that running an alternator using an old battery reduces
    alternator life. It's better to pre-emptively replace. Of
    course, in your case, this may beg the question of when
    exactly this would be.

    My 91 Civic's batteries were dying about every four years
    for the first 12 years, whence I started replacing them
    pre-emptively. The batteries always had a few "jumps" on
    them, though, and running them down to this point reduces
    battery life.
     
    Elle, Feb 4, 2008
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    bi241 Guest

    i bought EverStart at Walmart for $35 (group size 26). Couldn't resist
    the cheap price and the label that says "Dist. by Johnson Controls"

    Honda OEMs are of the standard group size, and there's a reason for
    that. If you buy other brands make sure you pick the standard group
    size for your car. Honda I4 engines need very little effort to crank
    them over. A battery of bigger size is a waste and a drain to the
    charging system. To get it recharged the alternator has to work harder
    and will fail prematurely and in effect, killing the battery
    prematurely...

    cheers
     
    bi241, Feb 4, 2008
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    Jeff Guest

    The ones from Sears are fine. Get the best one they sell.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Feb 4, 2008
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    Dave C. Guest

    I second that....always bought the 6-yr battery and replaced it between the
    5-6 year point.

    Dave C.
     
    Dave C., Feb 4, 2008
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    Tegger Guest



    Aftermarket is fine. Provided you buy a battery that fits properly and
    meets the specs given in the Owner's Manual.

    Sears is good.

    Also good batteries:
    Interstate
    Wal-Mart's Eveready.
     
    Tegger, Feb 4, 2008
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    ident Guest


    Thanks all for the replies. I bought the Interstate Mega-Tron (MT-51R)
    for $82.95 before taxes, as listed on the Interstatebatteries.com
    website. The website lists local places to buy it and found a import
    specialist place about 4/5 miles out. I actually carried it home by
    myself thinking that 28 lbs wasn't much. It was heavy, but at least I
    got my workout for the day.

    Five or six years between battery replacement sounds like a good plan.
     
    ident, Feb 4, 2008
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    Elle Guest

    Nice update and info for others in the future.

    You remind me of me, except I installed the new Interstate
    battery I bought at Firestone right in its parking lot. :)
    Maybe because I could dispose of it right there? Or doing so
    was part of the purchase plan? Something like that.
    Inquiring minds likely want to know: Do you live in a cold
    climate? Most reports here put Interstate/OEM battery life
    at not more than about six years. Shorter in warm climates
    and/or with a lot of jumps.
     
    Elle, Feb 4, 2008
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    ident Guest

    The Diehard Gold North had a little bigger dimension than the
    Interstate MT-51R. The Interstate battery fit perfectly; the Diehard
    battery would not have fit as well, I think.

    Diehard: 10-5/16 length x 6-7/8 width
    Interstate: 9.38 length x 5.13 width
     
    ident, Feb 4, 2008
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    ident Guest

    I live in Minnesota (32 deg. with light snow). The price for the
    battery is $1 more if you don't return the old battery.

    My old battery died once last winter when the temp was -20 degrees. It
    required a jump to start.
     
    ident, Feb 4, 2008
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    ident Guest

    The owners manual doesn't list the battery group size, unfortunately.

    The OEM battery is 500 amps (51R/500AMP85 as listed at a Honda eStore).
    The Interstate MT-51R battery is also 500 amps. The Diehard is 700
    amps, which would have been more than required and a waste, I guess.
    You guys saved me $10-$17.
     
    ident, Feb 4, 2008
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  14. Two points: 1) the OEM battery is a Group 51 with reversed posts (the 51R in
    the listing at the Honda eStore), with a capacity of 500AMP/h); 2) The 700Ah
    rating of the DieHard is NOT a waste it only means that there are 700A
    available IF required. Contrary to another poster, this will not shorten
    your charging circuits life! Now, you say you saved money buying the
    Interstate, is this correct? What is the warranty on each battery? If both
    are the same then you did save some money. If the DieHard had a better
    warranty then perhaps you didn't really save money. This, naturally, was
    your choice. Good luck. Keep your connections clean and your battery dry.

    DaveD
     
    Dave and Trudy, Feb 5, 2008
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    bi241 Guest


    electric circuit theory is above the scope of pop science, and is
    abstract to the average Joe

    but a layman can think about the starting/charging sytem in a car as a
    air compressor unit. A battery stores energy in form of electrical
    power and a compressor tank stores energy in form of pneumatic power.
    They are charged by the alternator and the compressor pump,
    respectively.

    Now suppose you own a air compressor unit. Will it be wise to remove
    the stock tank and replace it with a bigger tank. Will the expense be
    justified? Will that help you accomplish more, doing the same tasks
    and using the same tools? And in order to achive and maintain the
    desired air pressure in the bigger tank, will the pump stay on longer,
    or shorter or the same?

    Last but not least, the last figure on the model number is CCA (cold
    cranking amps) and the unit of electric current is Ampere or A
    Do not get confused with Ah or Ampere-hour which is the unit of
    electric charge and it's NOT a specification of automotive batteries.
    Your car is different from your cell phone or your digital camera, you
    don't run your car's battery till it's completely discharged.
     
    bi241, Feb 8, 2008
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    Jeff Guest

    A battery stores energy as chemical energy. A capacitor stores energy as
    electrical energy.
    Actually it is pneumatic energy. Energy is the ability to do work. Power
    is the rate at which work is done or energy is used.
    It will stay on longer. But it will also stay off longer if pneumatic
    equipment is constantly being used. Depending on the use of the
    compressed air, a larger tank may sense. If air is used fast enough,
    with a small tank, the compressor will be cycling on and off real fast,
    but if there is a bigger tank, the motor will cycle on and off as often.

    Likewise, if there aren't any air leaks, the compressed air will still
    be there the next time you need it.
    Actually, people sometimes do.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Feb 8, 2008
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    mjc13 Guest


    If you have NAPA auto parts stores in your area, they sell high
    quality, US-made batteries. I've got them in two Camrys and my 1986
    Civic. The days of Japanese cars using Japanese batteries appear to be
    ending.
     
    mjc13, Feb 14, 2008
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