Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by mark smith, Dec 28, 2003.

  1. mark smith

    mark smith Guest

    I have a 1995 Accord EX and a 1993 Civic EX. My mechaninc says to put
    Valvoline synthetic brake fluid in both cars and the clutch. I live
    inFairbanks Alaska and the winters get down to -40 for several months at a
    time.
    The bottle says, Valvoline synpower synthetic formula brake fluid for ABS
    brakes, exceeds DOT 3&4, compatible with conventional brake fluids.....

    The accord has ABS and an automatic transmission.

    THe civic has standard brakes and a manual transmission with a hydralic
    clutch....

    Will this fluid mess up the system??? The local Honda dealer is no help...
    "Frozen in Fairbanks"
     
    mark smith, Dec 28, 2003
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  2. Yes it is perfectly fine to use and I use it myself and have used it for the
    past 4 years and 85k miles.

    Just don't use silicone break fluid. Synthetics are fine and I believe
    not as hydroscopic. I believe that is the correct term which means to
    attract water. Regular break fluid attracts moisture and as such lowers the
    boiling point of the break fluid which is the main reason it should be
    flushed regularly. I don't believe synthetics are as hydroscopic but I may
    be wrong.

    I don't imagine you ever have to worry about boiling points of break fluid
    though.

    I still wouldn't get it on my paint though.

    CaptainKrunch
     
    CaptainKrunch, Dec 28, 2003
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  3. Yes it is perfectly fine to use and I use it myself and have used it for the
    past 4 years and 85k miles.

    Just don't use silicone break fluid. Synthetics are fine and I believe
    not as hydroscopic. I believe that is the correct term which means to
    attract water. Regular break fluid attracts moisture and as such lowers the
    boiling point of the break fluid which is the main reason it should be
    flushed regularly. I don't believe synthetics are as hydroscopic but I may
    be wrong.

    I don't imagine you ever have to worry about boiling points of break fluid
    though.

    I still wouldn't get it on my paint though.

    CaptainKrunch
     
    CaptainKrunch, Dec 28, 2003
    #3
  4. Yes it is perfectly fine to use and I use it myself and have used it for the
    past 4 years and 85k miles.

    Just don't use silicone break fluid. Synthetics are fine and I believe
    not as hydroscopic. I believe that is the correct term which means to
    attract water. Regular break fluid attracts moisture and as such lowers the
    boiling point of the break fluid which is the main reason it should be
    flushed regularly. I don't believe synthetics are as hydroscopic but I may
    be wrong.

    I don't imagine you ever have to worry about boiling points of break fluid
    though.

    I still wouldn't get it on my paint though.

    CaptainKrunch
     
    CaptainKrunch, Dec 28, 2003
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  5. mark smith

    Mista Bone Guest

    I use the Valvoline Syntech brake fluid in all my cars.
    BTW, you might wanna rethink about waiting till spring when it is warmer!
    I change the brake fluid once a year, but have no ABS to worry about.
     
    Mista Bone, Dec 28, 2003
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  6. mark smith

    Mista Bone Guest

    I use the Valvoline Syntech brake fluid in all my cars.
    BTW, you might wanna rethink about waiting till spring when it is warmer!
    I change the brake fluid once a year, but have no ABS to worry about.
     
    Mista Bone, Dec 28, 2003
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  7. mark smith

    Mista Bone Guest

    I use the Valvoline Syntech brake fluid in all my cars.
    BTW, you might wanna rethink about waiting till spring when it is warmer!
    I change the brake fluid once a year, but have no ABS to worry about.
     
    Mista Bone, Dec 28, 2003
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  8. The term "synthetic" in relation to brake fluid is redundant - all brake
    fluids are synthetic. Apart from the silicone types, which are not
    considered suitable for road use, they're basically mixtures of glycols
    and/or higher alcohols.
    If you want your ABS to last, i.e. avoid big $$ repairs, I'd recommend
    changing the fluid in the reservoir once a year.
    Honda doesn't have a clutch fluid change on their scheduled maintenance but
    again, if you want it to last, change the fluid regularly - at least every
    2years.
    No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
    fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Dec 28, 2003
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  9. The term "synthetic" in relation to brake fluid is redundant - all brake
    fluids are synthetic. Apart from the silicone types, which are not
    considered suitable for road use, they're basically mixtures of glycols
    and/or higher alcohols.
    If you want your ABS to last, i.e. avoid big $$ repairs, I'd recommend
    changing the fluid in the reservoir once a year.
    Honda doesn't have a clutch fluid change on their scheduled maintenance but
    again, if you want it to last, change the fluid regularly - at least every
    2years.
    No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
    fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Dec 28, 2003
    #9
  10. The term "synthetic" in relation to brake fluid is redundant - all brake
    fluids are synthetic. Apart from the silicone types, which are not
    considered suitable for road use, they're basically mixtures of glycols
    and/or higher alcohols.
    If you want your ABS to last, i.e. avoid big $$ repairs, I'd recommend
    changing the fluid in the reservoir once a year.
    Honda doesn't have a clutch fluid change on their scheduled maintenance but
    again, if you want it to last, change the fluid regularly - at least every
    2years.
    No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
    fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Dec 28, 2003
    #10
  11. mark smith

    Gus Guest

    George Macdonald wrote:

    (snip)
    Why is that?
     
    Gus, Dec 28, 2003
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  12. mark smith

    Gus Guest

    George Macdonald wrote:

    (snip)
    Why is that?
     
    Gus, Dec 28, 2003
    #12
  13. mark smith

    Gus Guest

    George Macdonald wrote:

    (snip)
    Why is that?
     
    Gus, Dec 28, 2003
    #13
  14. It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
    decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
    the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
    with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
    understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
    reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
    reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
    undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
    stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
    residue after another 20K miles.

    Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
    different stuff in them.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Dec 28, 2003
    #14
  15. It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
    decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
    the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
    with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
    understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
    reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
    reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
    undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
    stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
    residue after another 20K miles.

    Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
    different stuff in them.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Dec 28, 2003
    #15
  16. It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
    decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
    the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
    with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
    understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
    reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
    reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
    undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
    stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
    residue after another 20K miles.

    Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
    different stuff in them.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Dec 28, 2003
    #16
  17. mark smith

    Gus Guest

    Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on.
    Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too.

    However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not
    what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct?

    My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my
    '88 Integra.
     
    Gus, Dec 29, 2003
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  18. mark smith

    Gus Guest

    Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on.
    Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too.

    However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not
    what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct?

    My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my
    '88 Integra.
     
    Gus, Dec 29, 2003
    #18
  19. mark smith

    Gus Guest

    Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on.
    Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too.

    However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not
    what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct?

    My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my
    '88 Integra.
     
    Gus, Dec 29, 2003
    #19
  20. mark smith

    Richard Guest

    The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal".
    Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO
    and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have
    a few car venders.

    Richard.
     
    Richard, Sep 9, 2004
    #20
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