Japanese sedans

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Omphalos, Jul 4, 2003.

  1. Omphalos

    Ricardo Guest

    I concur, but John referred to "stones" (arch.: 1st=14lb), hence my
    comment on the illogical nature of many imperial measurements, with
    the exception of those such as ft and in which are dozenally
    founded. A dozenal metric system based on ft and in would make a lot
    of sense, actually, but that would require transition to a dozenal
    numbering system:

    www.dozens.org
    www.dsgb.orbix.co.uk
     
    Ricardo, Jul 6, 2003
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  2. Omphalos

    Jim... Guest

    On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 23:55:31 GMT,
    it would make far more sense in this computer age the use a base 16
    instead of 10 but it isn't going to happen.

    apply rot13 to

    will find me.
     
    Jim..., Jul 6, 2003
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  3. Omphalos

    Ricardo Guest

    Base 16 is easier for computers (effectively a binary derivative),
    but not necessarily for people. 12 reflects reality very nicely,
    although 10 isn't as terrible a choice as the dozenal advocates
    would have you believe. Imo 8, 10 and 12 are practical choices for
    everyday use and it so happens that we use base 10, mainly as a
    result of the possession of ten manual appendages.
     
    Ricardo, Jul 6, 2003
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  4. Omphalos

    Ricardo Guest

    Uhh, aren't some of those Jap cars made in the U.S.?
     
    Ricardo, Jul 6, 2003
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  5. Omphalos

    Philip® Guest

    Regarding the American Toyotas....specifically the models whose engines
    (V8, V6's, and I4's), transmissions (automatics), bodies (stampings done
    on the assembly line premises), and plastics (bumpers, dashboards,
    molded parts) are manufactured from American raw materials, assembled by
    UAW workers, and sold in both the US and Canada? Are you trashing
    UAW workers? Perhaps you could explain the tax structure in detail from
    top to bottom? Inferior products? Toyota is Number 3 auto maker in the
    world.

    Get your head out of your arse.

    --

    Philip

    "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
    the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
    wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
    - John Locke (1632-1704)
     
    Philip®, Jul 6, 2003
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  6. Omphalos

    Guest Guest

    Tell that to the people in American making those cars.

    Tell that to the people who lost their jobs to Mexico or elsewhre that
    worked for an American manufacturer.

    Alice

    --
    The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't
    worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev
    |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress
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    Guest, Jul 6, 2003
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  7. Omphalos

    Liam Devlin Guest

    Plus the ISO/metric system is decimal based, which is really the easiest
    one to understand & manipulate using Arabic numerals.

    If you were to tell the average person that you had $F (US) and spent $A
    (US) to see a movie and had $5 US remaining, they'd think you were daft.
     
    Liam Devlin, Jul 6, 2003
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  8. Omphalos

    Liam Devlin Guest

    Poor America, God forbid that their companies should be expected to make
    better products at competitive prices!
     
    Liam Devlin, Jul 6, 2003
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  9. Omphalos

    Marc Guest

    They aren't that good. The Maxima SE is still pretty soft (I haven't
    driven the new 3.5, but have driven previous ones), but it is better than
    most. If you are used to RWD and despise FWD, many of the options
    available will not feel right because of the drivetrain.
    Are you serious? I have a large friend that drives an Impala SS and can
    ride just fine in my Miata, '87 200SX, and some other "small" Japanese
    cars. He was looking for a new car and couldn't even fit behind the wheel
    of a 5-series, let alone drive it.

    The 3-series is a compact car, smaller than a Mazda Protege or Nissan
    Sentra (at least for the years the last time I checked, I don't know if it
    has changed, and if it has they should all still be about the same size).
    $30k for a 3-series of $15k for a Protege for the same size.

    The Maxima is larger than the 5-series in every stat I could find and costs
    more than $20,000 less. It is much larger than the 3-series and still
    costs less.

    Marc
    For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
     
    Marc, Jul 6, 2003
    #29
  10. Omphalos

    Philip® Guest

    Gosh... I hope they aren't exchanging fluids! ;^)
    --

    Philip

    "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
    the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
    wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
    - John Locke (1632-1704)
     
    Philip®, Jul 6, 2003
    #30
  11. Omphalos

    Philip® Guest

    Alice, why don't you tell American Government to back away from many of
    the incredibly intricate and pervasive regulations that drive up the
    costs of EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of vehicle manufacture? Why don't you have
    a word with a trade union or two about the incredibly comprehensive
    compensation packages that their automotive workers get? Why don't you
    have a word with your Congressmen, the likes of whom continue passing
    tax measures that ENCOURAGE American automakers thru the tax structure
    TO move off-shore or to Mexico? Hmmmmm?
    --

    Philip

    "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
    the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
    wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
    - John Locke (1632-1704)
     
    Philip®, Jul 6, 2003
    #31
  12. If you were to tell the average person that you had $F (US) and spent $A
    The great advantage to hex comes when you consider your own age:
    when you hit 32, drop into hex.
     
    Richard J. Sexton, Jul 6, 2003
    #32
  13. Omphalos

    Guest Guest

    Um, my point was more to the guy who claimed that by buying American you
    were supporing American workers. That is not so true anymore.

    Alice

    --
    The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't
    worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev
    |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress
    /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress
    |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'
    '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee.
     
    Guest, Jul 6, 2003
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  14. Omphalos

    Liam Devlin Guest

    Or when you hit 50, which is x'32'. :)
     
    Liam Devlin, Jul 6, 2003
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  15. Omphalos

    Liam Devlin Guest

    You seem to have confused Japanese food with Chinese food. ;)
     
    Liam Devlin, Jul 7, 2003
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  16. Omphalos

    Philip® Guest

    Sushi goes right thru me like Grant thru Richmond. From my perspective,
    Asian, Oriental, Japanese ... all the same accelerated digestive time
    compared to Oklahoma beef. ;^)
    --

    Philip

    "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
    the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
    wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
    - John Locke (1632-1704)
     
    Philip®, Jul 7, 2003
    #36
  17. Omphalos

    Philip® Guest

    Chinese-American is not all deep fried either when you eat Chinese in
    the Bay Area. But elsewhere, I agree with your findings. A casual
    study of authentic Chinese diet reveals they would eat the kitchen sink
    if it were cookable.
    --

    Philip

    "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
    the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
    wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
    - John Locke (1632-1704)
     
    Philip®, Jul 7, 2003
    #37
  18. Omphalos

    Dave C. Guest

    OK, enlighten me . . . where can I buy well made American tools? For that
    matter, I can't recall ever seeing well made American tools. Oh, and I'm
    not terribly young, either. -Dave
     
    Dave C., Jul 7, 2003
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  19. Omphalos

    Dan J.S. Guest

    Snap-on tools are made in the US.

    http://www.snapon.com/faqs/answers.asp?question=23

    They are by far the best tool company around.
     
    Dan J.S., Jul 7, 2003
    #39
  20. Omphalos

    Liam Devlin Guest

    Snap-On
     
    Liam Devlin, Jul 7, 2003
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