Lose your timing belt, lose your engine

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by George Orwell, Apr 4, 2007.


  1. Noisy! But certainly the way to go. There are lots of kits on the market
    for various motors to replace belt/chains with gears.
     
    Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, Apr 5, 2007
    #21

  2. LOL! I would guess...264?

    There were some Volvos that had PRESSBOARD timing gears! I spent an
    afternoon with a friend who got sick of replacing them and replaced it
    with a steel gear.
     
    Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, Apr 5, 2007
    #22
  3. 145. The odometer must have been about 260K at the time. I asked at the
    dealer if a steel gear was available, and he said he had one. He had sold it
    several times but it always came back because it was so noisy. Makes sense,
    I guess, and after thinking about it I figured the car wasn't likely to
    outlast the composite replacement gear.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 6, 2007
    #23

  4. Yeah, it did sound horrible, but we never had to rip the front of the car
    off again!
     
    Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, Apr 6, 2007
    #24
  5. It can happen but not very often...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Apr 6, 2007
    #25

  6. Not so (noisy).

    Only noise is from the solid lifters, another way to go if you hate
    shortlived comfort.

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Apr 6, 2007
    #26

  7. Studebaker used a fiber (phonolic) cam gear and steel crank gear.
    Failure is almost unheard of at least before 300K. High performance
    engines were equipped with an aluminum cam gear.

    Volvo was not the most dependable foreign car made. I can tell some
    horror stories...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Apr 6, 2007
    #27

  8. I had an 1800ES. Except for trying to KILL me, it was an OK car, but
    monthly maintenance required.
     
    Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, Apr 6, 2007
    #28
  9. He dumped that car and bought an Isuzu mini SUV. Some guys never
    learn.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Apr 6, 2007
    #29
  10. George Orwell

    TE Chea Guest

    | Many Japanese products use timing belts with non-free running
    | (interference) engines. When, not if, the belt skips or breaks, your
    | engine and $8,000 is gone.

    Honda engines <3.2 litre are all inteference*designs
    www.aa1car.com/library/2003/us70343.htm para 9
    Toyota's newer engines are not *.

    In 10-05 my honda F20A 's timing belt broke @ 79800 km (
    owner's manual says replace @100k km ), pistons then hit &
    broke valves. I had to buy & fit a used F20A imported fr japan,
    total cost M$2261 @3.80 = US$595. Feasible for you to send
    car to Mexico to change engine ?
    I think this question of when to change t-belts, depends on how
    hot an engine gets ; neoprene ages ( hardens & cracks ) faster
    with heat. Japanese manufacturers don't calibrate their tmprtre
    gauges, so 1 easy way to tell if an engine ( in a front-wd car ) is
    too hot is to touch * ( assumed alloy )' centres : if * cannot be
    touched for 5 seconds w-o scorching your fingers, then engine
    is too hot for belts to last as long as expected per service
    schedule. In just 33ÂșC humid air, my SM4's * used to be too
    hot to touch, caused by a few design flaws & cheapo 4-1 exhaust
    manifold.
     
    TE Chea, Apr 6, 2007
    #30

  11. LOL! How do you say "Blown head gasket" in Japanese?

    It's either Isuzu or Supra, I can't remember now...
     
    Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, Apr 6, 2007
    #31
  12. George Orwell

    Codifus Guest

    Yup. Supra MKIII turbos. Mine was one of many with blown head gaskets.
    Pity, such a beautiful car.

    CD
     
    Codifus, Apr 7, 2007
    #32
  13. George Orwell

    Danny G. Guest



    Was your Supra stock? Ever overheat or leak coolant?
    I'm just curious because I have been following the issue (own a Supra) for a long time.

    Thanks
    Dan
     
    Danny G., Apr 7, 2007
    #33

  14. When I bought mine, I had all the records from the previous owner (but not
    from the original owner). I know the last owner spent $1100 on cooling
    system components. I wonder if that included a HG. I'll have to see if I
    can find it.

    I ran it one year just fine, and then last year it started overheating.
    Thanks to Ray O and Danny G I discovered the fan clutch had bitten the big
    one. A new clutch and no overheating problems!

    The only problem is, I went aftermarket. When the fan comes on it does so
    with a vengance, and the car sounds like a B-17 taking off! (If you've
    ever heard one, that is!)
     
    Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, Apr 7, 2007
    #34
  15. George Orwell

    Codifus Guest

    Classic symptoms of a blown head gasket:

    Car overheats and the overflow tanks boils over. You stop the car and
    let it cool down. Surprisingly, it cools down rather quickly. You fill
    the radiator and overflow with coolant and drive off. The car is fine
    for some time, like a week or so before it does it again.

    I kept that going for a year, then one day the car was totally sick. No
    power, exhaust was pure smoke. I knew the the head gasket just blew a
    whole chunk by then and coolant was going directly into the combustion
    chamber.

    Had the gasket replaced and car was good after that.

    CD
     
    Codifus, Apr 8, 2007
    #35
  16. Uh, oh..

    Well, that didn't happen...it took quite a while!
    Nah, not in my case.

    Mine was a fan clutch that wasn't working right. After I replaced it,
    everthing was fine.

    But, one time the overflow bottle was boiling...

    Or at least had steam bubbling up in it.
     
    Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, Apr 8, 2007
    #36
  17. George Orwell

    Codifus Guest

    Yeah, after you replaced the fan and you still had bubbles in the
    overflow tank, yours was on the way out. Keep in mind that it varies
    driving style. For my style, let's just say that I would stop the car at
    night and pop the hood to see the turbo glowing bright orange . . . . .
    .. .and it was definitely NOT from any neon lights:)

    CD
     
    Codifus, Apr 10, 2007
    #37

  18. No, after I replaced the fan clutch the overheating and the bubbling
    stopped. And, I don't have the Turbo, so I ain't overheating much
    (pavement included...I have the Sport Roof model...4400 LBS, automatic and
    NO TURBO!!!)
     
    Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, Apr 11, 2007
    #38

  19. Oh, yeah...Codifus made me remember something. When I bought my Supra, it
    had...a BROKEN TIMING BELT!!!! But since I knew this was a
    Non-Interference engine, $100 and a new timing belt later it was up and
    running just fine again.

    so there.
     
    Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, Apr 11, 2007
    #39
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