Low idle knocking

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Imminent Vengeance, Apr 5, 2005.

  1. My '93 Accord LX automatic has recently developed a very mild knocking sound
    when it is idling at low speed. The instant I press the gas (regardless of
    what gear it is in), the knocking goes away. Moreover, I only hear it when
    the radio is off and the interior fan is on low running speed. Despite the
    knock, the idle speed is normal (~770 RPMs) and it does not feel rough.

    A Google search returned a handful of possibilities including carbon
    build-up (EGR or otherwise), valves needing adjustment, bad gas, and perhaps
    needing a tune-up. FYI, the spark plugs, distributor cap and rotor, and
    timing belt were replaced 20,000km ago, it has not had a valve adjustment
    since I have owned it (5 years now), and I never put cheap quality gas in
    the tank. It currently has 221,000km (137,000 miles).

    Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
     
    Imminent Vengeance, Apr 5, 2005
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  2. Imminent Vengeance

    halo2 guy Guest

    Well you can go under the hood under idle and disconnect 1 spark plug wire
    at a time and then reinstall to determine which cylinder may be causing the
    knocking. If you pull off number 3 wire and it goes away at least you know
    it is the number 3 cylinder area to look at.

    I would have a hard time believing any carbon buildup causing a problem at
    idle.

    I would be worried about pistion slap or a bearing going out.
     
    halo2 guy, Apr 5, 2005
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    John Guest

    I just fixed a knocking problem. It was the spark plug being loose so I had
    to tighten it back. At first I thought it was the valves knocking but with
    the help of some people from this newsgroup I got it fixed.

    John
     
    John, Apr 5, 2005
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  4. Well, I did some troubleshooting with a friend today. With me standing
    outside, I asked my friend to step on the brake and put the car in gear to
    get it to low idle. Before the car was even shifted out of park (and
    after), I could hear the sound coming from under the car. This knock was
    actually a metallic rattle.

    With that said, I am 99% sure it is a loose or rusted heat shield (catalytic
    converter heat shield perhaps?). I just find it strange that I could only
    barely hear the rattle inside the car only at low idle. Perhaps at higher
    engine speeds, the increase in engine noise filters out the rattle?

    I have heard suggestions to either replace the heat shield, or just leave it
    off. What factors should I consider in making this decision (other than the
    cost to replace the shield)? I don't drive the car on grass, so I don't
    think I would have to worry about a hot catalytic converter setting things
    on the ground on fire when the car passes over them.
     
    Imminent Vengeance, Apr 5, 2005
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