Lower gas milage after timing belt change

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by K J, Nov 22, 2008.

  1. K J

    K J Guest

    I just had the the 3rd timing belt replacement on my 94 Accord LX and
    noticed about 10-15 % lower gas milage after it though the car runs
    smooth. I estimated this by noticing how many miles I could drive from a
    full tank till the guage touches the Empty mark. It used to be around
    330 miles, now it's around 290.

    First I thought this might be due to perhaps a different, less efficient
    gasoline mix they are selling during the winter season in my state, but
    when I heard a Accord Ex owner on a local auto show calling in with
    virtually the identical issue (lower milage after a timing belt change)
    I started wondering if this is something more common. I's strange
    because, if anything, I would expect a better milage after such a major
    maintenance that includes a tune-up as well. The radio show host did not
    really have a good answer and I wonder if any of you have heard about
    this issue before.

    KJ
     
    K J, Nov 22, 2008
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  2. K J

    Tegger Guest



    The only way this could happen is if a mistake was made.

    Either something's not been reconnected properly, or the belt is off by a
    tooth. I vote for the second reason. Go back and get the garage to check
    the alignment again.
     
    Tegger, Nov 22, 2008
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  3. K J

    K J Guest

    Oh, not that! It would be a big job. What if the tune-up was not done
    right? Couldn't that also cause such a drop in milage?

    KJ
     
    K J, Nov 23, 2008
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  4. K J

    jim beam Guest

    "tune up"? with computerized ignition and injection, it's not like
    you're going to minutely adjust the dwell or the mixture here dude. the
    only reason you get big disparities is because of big screw-ups. i'm
    with tegger - check the cam timing.
     
    jim beam, Nov 23, 2008
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  5. K J

    Tegger Guest



    Sure would! And that's the garage's problem, not yours. They have an
    obligation to perform the servicing correctly, and to fix it if it wasn't.




    That's what I meant by something "not reconnected properly". Suppose they
    damaged a sensor or something? Or hooked up a vacuum line in the wrong
    place?

    Besides investigating the strong possibility the belt alignment is off,
    they need to do a thorough check to make sure no other mistakes were made.
     
    Tegger, Nov 23, 2008
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  6. K J

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    Don't guess, measure. How many miles do you go between fill ups and
    how many gallons does one take? Do this over several tanks.
     
    Dillon Pyron, Nov 23, 2008
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  7. K J

    johngdole Guest

    An other than competent mechanic could easily put the timing belt on
    one-tooth off. Have a talk with the manager/owner. What exactly was
    done with the tuneup? Changed spark plugs? Valve adjustment?
     
    johngdole, Nov 23, 2008
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  8. K J

    jim beam Guest

    you think driving a thousand miles on a mis-timed cam is a good idea?
     
    jim beam, Nov 23, 2008
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  9. K J

    K J Guest

    That's my intention. I only drove 2-3 tanks of gas since the timing belt
    change and figured the fewer miles driven per tank was due to colder
    weather till I heard that other guy call in the car talk show with
    similar observation. Now I am getting concerned. But because the engine
    otherwise seems to run smoothly and without loss of power, I figure I
    can afford to drive a couple more tankful before I talk to the shop
    again so I don't look like a fool in case I am wrong.

    KJ
     
    K J, Nov 23, 2008
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  10. K J

    K J Guest

    Both.

    KJ
     
    K J, Nov 23, 2008
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  11. K J

    Tegger Guest



    If one of the cams was off by a tooth, you'd have a definite, and
    objectionable, change in engine behavior from what you're used to.

    If the engine behaves /exactly/ as it did before the service, then I would
    advise attempting to more precisely determine what your mileage actually is
    before panicking.
     
    Tegger, Nov 23, 2008
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  12. K J

    K J Guest

    Following your suggestions I did measure the mileage and fuel
    consumption after three fillups and I got surprisingly good fuel economy
    that was consistently between 25.5 and 25.8 MPG. This is for combined
    mileage for about 50-50 city (suburban) and freeway driving without
    using A/C. I can hardly believe it because this is better than even the
    old (higher) EPA estimate for this A/T model. Now I wonder how much was
    the MPG *before* this timing belt change. Strange, but I'm not
    complaining any more.

    KJ
     
    K J, Dec 14, 2008
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  13. K J

    Tegger Guest


    Well there you go.

    I've long contended that most people have no real idea of their car's fuel
    consumption, regardless of what they claim to be getting.
     
    Tegger, Dec 15, 2008
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  14. K J

    K J Guest

    Well, that's why we keep coming to Tegger for answers. ;-) But
    seriously, it appears that when the fuel guage needle is close to the E
    mark, it is a pretty unreliable indication of how much fuel is still
    left in the tank. That mark can also quickly change a notch after quick
    braking episode. So I think that's where my mistaken perception was
    coming from.

    KJ
     
    K J, Dec 15, 2008
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