Lowering your car make void insurance?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Sunny, Jul 20, 2003.

  1. Sunny

    Sunny Guest

    Watch out your insurance company may try and scam you. Read on!

    Insurance calls the shots
    Modified Automobile refused coverage

    Are other tuner owners aware?

    I'm a 46-year-old IT professional with IBM and have always been a fan of cars.
    Not just imports or domestics or muscle cars or trucks, but all vehicles with
    four wheels (and even some with two). A year and a half ago, it was time to
    retire the minivan and I bought a base 2002 sedan.

    It's basic transportation, but still fun to drive with a decent little
    four-cylinder engine and five-speed transmission. About six months after
    getting the car, I discovered http://www.j-body.org and found that there is a
    whole group of people out there modifying their cars. I bought a set of used
    lowering springs (40 mm) and installed them myself.

    That little change to remove the 4x4 look of the car hooked me up with the
    local Durham Region J-Body owners and I got many ideas for other modifications
    to my car by attending the weekly Sunday meets at the AMC complex in Whitby.
    All were very low-budget and could be done in my driveway.

    I entered the car in a couple of J-Body shows as well as ImportFest and The
    First Episode. I had a great time and my 19-year-old son also attends the shows
    with me.

    Earlier this year, I talked with an owner of a Honda Civic who, like me, was
    insured with State Farm. He had recently had an accident and his Civic was
    totaled. When the adjuster examined his car, he was informed that since it was
    modified (that is, lowered) and State Farm had not been informed (as dictated
    in the policy), his vehicle would not be covered.

    I contacted my agent right away and was requested to bring the car in for
    pictures. They checked the car over, took some pictures, and said "No problem.
    Thanks for letting us know." About three weeks later I received a registered
    letter from the State Farm underwriters informing me that they appreciated the
    opportunity to provide me with coverage in the past but would no longer be able
    to insure the car. I had three weeks to find another company to look after me.

    I have been with them for more than 15 years and have a clean driving record,
    so I shouldn't be a risk — they just don't want to cover "modified" cars. I
    then started calling most of the companies in the phone book. As soon as you
    mention the lowering, they want nothing to do with you. I even had one company
    say that they would insure "customized" cars but not "modified."

    Eventually, I asked State Farm if my insurance would be re-instated if I
    returned the suspension to stock. My agent checked with head office and they
    agreed, provided I took the car to an adjuster who would verify the condition
    of the car.

    While the car was being inspected, I asked the reasoning behind not wanting the
    car lowered. Was it because this reduced the height of the bumpers and
    increased the risk of damage? No — it was because lowering the car makes it
    more aerodynamic and allows it to go faster. I asked about coil-over suspension
    so the stock height could be maintained and then lowered for shows. No — that
    suspension would probably be stiffer and allow improved performance. This
    argument would also seem to apply to new higher performance shocks and struts.
    I didn't bother discussing it any further.

    My point is that many of the enthusiasts out there who have modified their cars
    may very well have voided their insurance without knowing it. The insurance
    industry may be able to accomplish what the police haven't been able to (yet)
    by making all these vehicles illegal to be on the street because they can't get
    coverage.
     
    Sunny, Jul 20, 2003
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  2. Sunny

    Paul Bielec Guest

    It is not just the fact that the car can be driven faster. I would be more
    afraid by the BAD modifications.
    Most people will lower their car just for the look. Meaning that the
    handling of the car would acutally be worse with the "sport" suspension kit
    making it easier to get an accident.
     
    Paul Bielec, Jul 21, 2003
    #2
  3. I think I have to disagree with you on some points here. The cars horse
    power is not going to change by lowering it so it can be driven just as fast
    as before. If one uses the proper kit, sport or otherwise, to lower their
    car the effect will be a lower roll center and better cornering stability.
    There are BAD lowering jobs that will make the car a road hazard. To
    blindly say that if the car is lowered it will be more likely to get into an
    accident is unfair to all of us who 'do it right', Jerry.....
     
    Jerry Belluomini, Jul 22, 2003
    #3
  4. Sunny

    Paul Bielec Guest

    What I mean is that if the car is lowered properly, you can actually drive
    it faster as you can negociate the curves at higher speed.
    If it is lowered just for looks, it becomes a road hasard.
    Will the insurance try to find out how you drive your car or if it was
    lowered right? No, they don't care.
     
    Paul Bielec, Jul 22, 2003
    #4
  5. Sunny

    c0smic Guest

    STATE FARM SUCKS! Stay away from this company at all costs.
    They try to avoid paying any and all claims.
     
    c0smic, Jul 22, 2003
    #5
  6. Sunny

    Paul Bielec Guest

    I saw on the news that in New Brunswick, the insurance rates are so high
    that you're lucky if you can even afford to have car...
     
    Paul Bielec, Jul 23, 2003
    #6
  7. Sunny

    pars Guest

    Affording a car is all relevant. If you're a young torontonian driver
    and plan on leasing a new car..expect your monthly insurance to be
    equivalent to your lease payment (even if your dad insurance the car for
    you)... Then, there's the high price of gas....

    Pars
    98 Hatch
     
    pars, Jul 25, 2003
    #7
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