[QUOTE="Seth"] Funny thing is, the "know-it-alls" with the "wise cracks" are usually the more knowledgeable people who may now not help you with a serious problem in the future. Polite or not, they are trying to guide you towards your FIRST line of defense, the owners manual. SECOND line is reviewing the previously covered topics, then if not found ask. Now, they may have added you to their kill filters, so next time you're here, up a creek with a serious problem, they will ignore you. [/QUOTE] Assuming that the poster has an owners manual.