Mighty Honda Civic

Discussion in 'Civic' started by gzuckier, Jul 12, 2005.

  1. gzuckier

    gzuckier Guest

    I busted an axle. Not the CV joint, the actual axle. From a standing
    start in a parking lot, without much throttle, trying to keep the speed
    down. Who says they don't have any torque? Well, I admit, it was a B16
    engine, and it does have a loud exhaust and an $80 aftermarket oiled
    gauze intake filter. I guess that's what did the trick.
     
    gzuckier, Jul 12, 2005
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  2. gzuckier

    jim beam Guest

    no, metal fatigue did the trick. it either had a defect from factory or
    was damaged in a way that initiated fatigue cracking.

    and that "filter" lets in way more crud than you'd think. you're
    cutting 50% or more off your engine life. unless you race, and want to
    win, and can afford new motors regularly, that filer is costing you
    /way/ more than $80.
     
    jim beam, Jul 12, 2005
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  3. Yeah, if you think about it, in order for a filter to get xxxCFM higher
    than an AC Delco, or whatever, that means that the pores have to be
    larger. The larger the pores, the more likely something will get
    through the filter, even if it's only 100 nanometers in size. You
    multiply the number of those tiny particles by several quardrillion over
    the life of your car, and how much gunk do you think could accumulate in
    your combustion chamber? Is your filter K&N or a copy-cat?

    (the following is directed to jim beam)
    Speaking of K&N filters: K&N is supposed to have the highest airflow
    with no dust escape as shown on their website:

    http://knfilters.com/images/factstab1.gif
    http://knfilters.com/images/factstab2.gif

    Are they lying about what's in the "Comments" column?

    Jonathan
     
    Jonathan Upright, Jul 12, 2005
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  4. gzuckier

    jim beam Guest

    two questions:

    1. what is "coarse" dust axactly? - just something that they know is
    larger than their pore size?

    2. what is "weight gain of absolute"? do they mean absolute weight of
    dust fed?

    just throwing a percentage out there doesn't mean a thing unless it's
    compared to other filters. istr an article cited here some months back
    with filter test comparisons - it showed these aftermarket filters in a
    pretty bad way.
     
    jim beam, Jul 12, 2005
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  5. gzuckier

    TeGGeR® Guest


    After seeing this, I resolved (more than before) never to ever use a K&N on
    any engine I wasn't racing:
    http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm
     
    TeGGeR®, Jul 12, 2005
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  6. gzuckier

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Well,you either need larger pores,or -more filter area.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jul 12, 2005
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  7. gzuckier

    Rob Guest

    Wow! I've been buying K&N's for years.

     
    Rob, Jul 12, 2005
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  8. gzuckier

    gzuckier Guest

    I don't think the K&N bills itself as getting more airflow than the
    stock when clean; at least for the Honda, they tout the ability to not
    clog when loaded with gunk.
    I do wonder how much stuff gets in, and what the significance is. I
    remember those old oil bath air cleaners on the updraft carbs. I think
    nothing ever got as much dust out of the air as those.
     
    gzuckier, Jul 13, 2005
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  9. gzuckier

    jim beam Guest

    excellent! i was looking for that. will you please keep a link on your
    site? thanks tegger.
     
    jim beam, Jul 13, 2005
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  10. gzuckier

    TeGGeR® Guest



    I should add that, yeah. Do it in the morning.
     
    TeGGeR®, Jul 13, 2005
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  11. gzuckier

    gzuckier Guest

    What I'd like to see is a chart of silicon in the oil, from an oil
    test. Used to get them, occasionally.
    Does anybody still do them for a reasonable price?
     
    gzuckier, Jul 16, 2005
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  12. gzuckier

    gzuckier Guest

    If I could do it in the morning, I wouldn't need the K&N.
     
    gzuckier, Jul 19, 2005
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    Matt Ion Guest

    heheh... got rice?
     
    Matt Ion, Sep 3, 2005
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