MIKE Hunter's smaller car thesis??

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by GO Mavs, Jun 30, 2007.

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    rantonrave Guest

    I started doing accident investigations back when seatbelts were still
    optional equipment, but I can't remember one accident where the
    vehicle's occupants would have been better off without seatbelts.

    On the other hand, I did know a person who would not have lost his big
    toe if he hadn't been wearing steel-toed safety shoes, and my father
    may have died prematurely, from Parkinson's disease, because he quit
    smoking at age 75. Still, I don't mow the lawn without safety shoes
    or smoke.
     
    rantonrave, Jul 1, 2007
    #61
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    Bill Ward Guest

    IIRC, he wasn't speeding. He has people to do that for him.
     
    Bill Ward, Jul 1, 2007
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    Bill Ward Guest

    IIRC, he wasn't speeding. He has people to do that for him.
     
    Bill Ward, Jul 1, 2007
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    Wickeddoll® Guest

    "Bill Ward"...
    Mea culpa.

    :)

    Natalie
     
    Wickeddoll®, Jul 1, 2007
    #64
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    Wickeddoll® Guest

    "Bill Ward"...
    Mea culpa.

    :)

    Natalie
     
    Wickeddoll®, Jul 1, 2007
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  6. Yeah - a state trooper was doing 90-ish mph during that accident. Meanwhile,
    11 teens were killed in gruesome car accidents here over the past month, and
    the police say some were "speed related".
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jul 1, 2007
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  7. Yeah - a state trooper was doing 90-ish mph during that accident. Meanwhile,
    11 teens were killed in gruesome car accidents here over the past month, and
    the police say some were "speed related".
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jul 1, 2007
    #67
  8. Although, if you are talking about US imports, we don't buy much oil from
    hostiles - Venezuela is the top of the hostile oil supplier list at 13% of
    our imports. Canada is our #1 source of imported oil at 22%, Mexico is #2 at
    19%, Saudi Arabia is #3 at 16%. It's been that way for a long time. In fact,
    according to the US Dept of Energy, 55% of our oil imports come from the
    western hemisphere. http://tinyurl.com/7ldt Another 16% comes from Saudi
    Arabia, with which we have better relations than we do with some of our
    supposed allies. Iraq, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are the only mid-east
    countries to even make the list. (Iraq is only 5.5% of our imports and
    Kuwait is only 1.5%, for those oil-for-war theorists out there.) And US oil
    consumption is still only about what it was in 1978. Over the last quarter
    century US oil consumption has fluctuated only about 20% from present
    values, 25% from the 1983 minimum.
    http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/25opec/sld007.htm

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 1, 2007
    #68
  9. Although, if you are talking about US imports, we don't buy much oil from
    hostiles - Venezuela is the top of the hostile oil supplier list at 13% of
    our imports. Canada is our #1 source of imported oil at 22%, Mexico is #2 at
    19%, Saudi Arabia is #3 at 16%. It's been that way for a long time. In fact,
    according to the US Dept of Energy, 55% of our oil imports come from the
    western hemisphere. http://tinyurl.com/7ldt Another 16% comes from Saudi
    Arabia, with which we have better relations than we do with some of our
    supposed allies. Iraq, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are the only mid-east
    countries to even make the list. (Iraq is only 5.5% of our imports and
    Kuwait is only 1.5%, for those oil-for-war theorists out there.) And US oil
    consumption is still only about what it was in 1978. Over the last quarter
    century US oil consumption has fluctuated only about 20% from present
    values, 25% from the 1983 minimum.
    http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/25opec/sld007.htm

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 1, 2007
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  10. For further clarification of "hemisphere", I'll share some enlightenment
    from the commander in chief:

    "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric in nature because
    it is a product that we can find in our neighborhoods."—Austin, Texas, Dec.
    20, 2000
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jul 1, 2007
    #70

  11. For further clarification of "hemisphere", I'll share some enlightenment
    from the commander in chief:

    "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric in nature because
    it is a product that we can find in our neighborhoods."—Austin, Texas, Dec.
    20, 2000
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jul 1, 2007
    #71
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    Dave Kelsen Guest

    Actually, it's quite simple; most travel is within 30 minutes of one's
    home. Additionally, longer distances usually imply highway miles.
    Interstate highways don't have intersections or opposing traffic (on the
    same roadway) and are much, much safer than city streets.


    RFT!!!
    Dave Kelsen
     
    Dave Kelsen, Jul 1, 2007
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    Dave Kelsen Guest

    Actually, it's quite simple; most travel is within 30 minutes of one's
    home. Additionally, longer distances usually imply highway miles.
    Interstate highways don't have intersections or opposing traffic (on the
    same roadway) and are much, much safer than city streets.


    RFT!!!
    Dave Kelsen
     
    Dave Kelsen, Jul 1, 2007
    #73

  14. That link is badly outdated as it reflects 1997-98 figures...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Jul 1, 2007
    #74

  15. That link is badly outdated as it reflects 1997-98 figures...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Jul 1, 2007
    #75
  16. I used it because it shows the trend well. Nothing has changed; here's most
    of a decade later (same range, but loses the interesting stuff in the '70s)
    http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/Usa/Oil.html and the up-to-date figures in
    a chart format http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/mttupus1m.htm
    Comparing that to census numbers
    http://www.census.gov/population/estimates/nation/intfile1-1.txt the oil
    usage per capita is virtually identical to what it was in 1980; the
    population increased 22% while oil consumption increased 23% (1980-2000, the
    limits of the census numbers on that view). I haven't graphed the entire
    data set but just scanning the numbers and comparing it to the petroleum
    consumption graphs I'd be amazed to find a 5% variance in per capita
    consumption more than a couple places in the covered period.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 1, 2007
    #76
  17. I used it because it shows the trend well. Nothing has changed; here's most
    of a decade later (same range, but loses the interesting stuff in the '70s)
    http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/Usa/Oil.html and the up-to-date figures in
    a chart format http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/mttupus1m.htm
    Comparing that to census numbers
    http://www.census.gov/population/estimates/nation/intfile1-1.txt the oil
    usage per capita is virtually identical to what it was in 1980; the
    population increased 22% while oil consumption increased 23% (1980-2000, the
    limits of the census numbers on that view). I haven't graphed the entire
    data set but just scanning the numbers and comparing it to the petroleum
    consumption graphs I'd be amazed to find a 5% variance in per capita
    consumption more than a couple places in the covered period.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 1, 2007
    #77
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    dbu,. Guest

    Did you know if you drill deep enough you can find natural gas anywhere,
    even in your own backyard? Bet you, JSB didn't know that.
     
    dbu,., Jul 1, 2007
    #78
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    dbu,. Guest

    Did you know if you drill deep enough you can find natural gas anywhere,
    even in your own backyard? Bet you, JSB didn't know that.
     
    dbu,., Jul 1, 2007
    #79

  20. If you believed that cutting off your pecker would somehow distract from
    your master's foolishness, you'd have the cleaver out instantly. :)
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jul 1, 2007
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