MIKE Hunter's smaller car thesis??

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by GO Mavs, Jun 30, 2007.

  1. GO Mavs

    Jeff Guest

    You know, when you make up things about the President, you hurt your
    argument.

    You should know better.

    After all, he does so much to hurt his own cause.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jul 4, 2007

  2. Because I'm a nice guy, I'll give you one chance to recant your statement
    before I provide you with video footage of Bush inappropriately touching the
    chancellor, and her reaction.

    Do you recant your statement?
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jul 4, 2007

  3. Because I'm a nice guy, I'll give you one chance to recant your statement
    before I provide you with video footage of Bush inappropriately touching the
    chancellor, and her reaction.

    Do you recant your statement?
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jul 4, 2007
  4. GO Mavs

    Jeff Guest

    Why would I recant my statement? I have no knowledge of the President
    touching her in any appropriate way, and your state behavior to date
    doesn't give me much confidence in your statement.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jul 4, 2007
  5. GO Mavs

    Jeff Guest

    Why would I recant my statement? I have no knowledge of the President
    touching her in any appropriate way, and your state behavior to date
    doesn't give me much confidence in your statement.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jul 4, 2007
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    Cathy F. Guest

    It was on TV news broadcasts at the time, & if you Google "Bush German
    Chancellor" you can find articles about it, along w/video, no problem. He
    gave her an uninvited shoulder massage as he passed behind her chair, & her
    body language reaction was along the lines of "Arghhh" or "Iccck!"

    Cathy
     
    Cathy F., Jul 4, 2007
  7. GO Mavs

    Cathy F. Guest

    It was on TV news broadcasts at the time, & if you Google "Bush German
    Chancellor" you can find articles about it, along w/video, no problem. He
    gave her an uninvited shoulder massage as he passed behind her chair, & her
    body language reaction was along the lines of "Arghhh" or "Iccck!"

    Cathy
     
    Cathy F., Jul 4, 2007
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    Jeff Guest

    I would not use the word "fondle" to describe this.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jul 4, 2007
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    Jeff Guest

    I would not use the word "fondle" to describe this.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jul 4, 2007
  10. Jeff, you really need to become a better citizen and pay attention to the
    news.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/20/tech/main1823983.shtml

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dfrHT8o-0A

    I play in a band, so obviously, I spend lots of time observing drunk people.
    What Bush did is pretty common* behavior for drunk guys in bars. They have
    no clue about the physical space that most people consider the norm. They
    walk up to a woman and massage her shoulders, but since they have no idea
    how to do it, they annoy the woman, and perhaps give her a muscle knot that
    hurts for 20 minutes.


    A second definition, applicable to Bush's behavior in the video:
    Common - 5 a: falling below ordinary standards : second-rate b: lacking
    refinement : coarse
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jul 4, 2007
  11. Jeff, you really need to become a better citizen and pay attention to the
    news.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/20/tech/main1823983.shtml

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dfrHT8o-0A

    I play in a band, so obviously, I spend lots of time observing drunk people.
    What Bush did is pretty common* behavior for drunk guys in bars. They have
    no clue about the physical space that most people consider the norm. They
    walk up to a woman and massage her shoulders, but since they have no idea
    how to do it, they annoy the woman, and perhaps give her a muscle knot that
    hurts for 20 minutes.


    A second definition, applicable to Bush's behavior in the video:
    Common - 5 a: falling below ordinary standards : second-rate b: lacking
    refinement : coarse
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jul 4, 2007

  12. You wouldn't, but her reaction clearly indicated that it was inappropriate
    and undesirable.
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jul 4, 2007

  13. You wouldn't, but her reaction clearly indicated that it was inappropriate
    and undesirable.
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jul 4, 2007
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    Cathy F. Guest

    I would! Men do *not* go around giving women shoulder rubs unless they are
    close to eachother & it's understood to be an invited touch.

    Cathy
     
    Cathy F., Jul 4, 2007
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    Cathy F. Guest

    I would! Men do *not* go around giving women shoulder rubs unless they are
    close to eachother & it's understood to be an invited touch.

    Cathy
     
    Cathy F., Jul 4, 2007
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    Jeff Guest

    We saw what? six seconds of action? We don't know the context. It could
    have been highly offensive or just a joke or a gesture of friendship.
    And, IMHO, her reaction indicated surprise at an unexpected shoulder
    massage.

    From what I've read, it was just a friendly gesture that had no sexual
    connotation at all.

    At any rate, I disagree with calling this 3 second shoulder rub,
    undesirable or not, "fondling."

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jul 4, 2007
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    Jeff Guest

    We saw what? six seconds of action? We don't know the context. It could
    have been highly offensive or just a joke or a gesture of friendship.
    And, IMHO, her reaction indicated surprise at an unexpected shoulder
    massage.

    From what I've read, it was just a friendly gesture that had no sexual
    connotation at all.

    At any rate, I disagree with calling this 3 second shoulder rub,
    undesirable or not, "fondling."

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jul 4, 2007
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    Cathy F. Guest

    Look at her facial expression & the tenseness of her shoulders, up in the
    air. That overture was obviously *not* a welcome one. (I hope Laura gave
    him hell about it later; nothing to do w/jealousy, but re: the
    inappropriateness of the touch.)

    Cathy
     
    Cathy F., Jul 4, 2007
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    Cathy F. Guest

    Look at her facial expression & the tenseness of her shoulders, up in the
    air. That overture was obviously *not* a welcome one. (I hope Laura gave
    him hell about it later; nothing to do w/jealousy, but re: the
    inappropriateness of the touch.)

    Cathy
     
    Cathy F., Jul 4, 2007
  20. The context? They're at a friggin' conference table at the G8 summit, in
    front of television cameras, you knucklehead!

    How old are you?
     
    JoeSpareBedroom, Jul 4, 2007
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