Misfire with my 91 Accord EX

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Steve, Apr 22, 2005.

  1. Steve

    Steve Guest

    Recently, my 91 accord EX, when it is warmed up, started sputtering when
    I press the gas pedal very slightly. I.E. when I am going through a
    parking lot under 20 KM per hour. If I accelerate more aggressively but
    not excessively, everything is great. All other times it appears to be
    normal, just when starting off with a gentle foot. This has been
    happening for about 1 month.

    New Parts:
    Plugs
    Wires
    Cap and rotor
    Checked air filter
    Fuel tank Injector cleaner

    Any advise?

    Steve
    Ottawa Ontario
     
    Steve, Apr 22, 2005
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  2. Steve

    disallow Guest

    whats the tension on your timing belt? Has it
    skipped a tooth?

    t
     
    disallow, Apr 22, 2005
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  3. Steve

    jim beam Guest

    replace the thermostat with a new oem one. cured similar symptoms in my
    '89 civic. make sure coolant level is correct too - look in the rad,
    not the expansion bottle. checking the timing won't hurt either.
     
    jim beam, Apr 22, 2005
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  4. Steve

    jim beam Guest

    replace the thermostat with a new oem one. cured similar symptoms in my
    '89 civic. make sure coolant level is correct too - look in the rad,
    not the expansion bottle. checking the timing won't hurt either.
     
    jim beam, Apr 22, 2005
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  5. Steve

    motsco_ _ Guest

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    If you crawl around a parking lot in first, does it try to 'buck' a bit?
    If so you probably have a shot Throttle Position Sensor. Do a
    Google.com search. look under 'groups' too. Knowing your mileage would
    help. . .

    'Curly'


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    motsco_ _, Apr 22, 2005
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  6. Steve

    motsco_ _ Guest

    --------------------------

    If you crawl around a parking lot in first, does it try to 'buck' a bit?
    If so you probably have a shot Throttle Position Sensor. Do a
    Google.com search. look under 'groups' too. Knowing your mileage would
    help. . .

    'Curly'


    --

    To REPLY: If there are a couple of underscores in my return address,
    you must remove them to reply directly . . . . . . Thanks.

    Regarding stage performances: When everyone else has finished playing,
    you should not play any notes you have left over. -
     
    motsco_ _, Apr 22, 2005
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  7. Steve

    jim beam Guest

    good point - check for computer codes. tps always shows up as a code if
    it's failing.
     
    jim beam, Apr 22, 2005
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  8. Steve

    jim beam Guest

    good point - check for computer codes. tps always shows up as a code if
    it's failing.
     
    jim beam, Apr 22, 2005
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  9. Steve

    Steve Guest

    No it doesn't buck but misses...like one plug is misfiring. As soon as
    you load the engine by accelerating, it works great. If I hadn't put
    new plugs and check the gap I would have suspected this. The car has
    263,000kms and works great. It an automatic.
    I've reset the computer to clear any faults and there are no faults
    showing during the diagnosis test..
     
    Steve, Apr 22, 2005
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  10. Steve

    Steve Guest

    No it doesn't buck but misses...like one plug is misfiring. As soon as
    you load the engine by accelerating, it works great. If I hadn't put
    new plugs and check the gap I would have suspected this. The car has
    263,000kms and works great. It an automatic.
    I've reset the computer to clear any faults and there are no faults
    showing during the diagnosis test..
     
    Steve, Apr 22, 2005
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  11. Persistent single-cylinder misfire at low throttle (often does it at idle,
    too, but with fuel injection that isn't always true) makes me think of a
    vacuum leak first of all. In the Days Of Olde that usually meant the PCV
    hose or vacuum advance connection (since they typically came off a single
    branch of the intake manifold) but nowadays the fuel injector seat seal is
    suspect. A gentle squirt of carburetor cleaner around the base of each
    injector when the engine is idling will cause the idle speed to blip if you
    hit a leaky seal.

    As always, use carb cleaner cautiously on a running engine - it is made to
    be flammable. The smallest squirt that will wet the seal is what you want.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 22, 2005
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  12. Persistent single-cylinder misfire at low throttle (often does it at idle,
    too, but with fuel injection that isn't always true) makes me think of a
    vacuum leak first of all. In the Days Of Olde that usually meant the PCV
    hose or vacuum advance connection (since they typically came off a single
    branch of the intake manifold) but nowadays the fuel injector seat seal is
    suspect. A gentle squirt of carburetor cleaner around the base of each
    injector when the engine is idling will cause the idle speed to blip if you
    hit a leaky seal.

    As always, use carb cleaner cautiously on a running engine - it is made to
    be flammable. The smallest squirt that will wet the seal is what you want.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 22, 2005
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  13. Steve

    Jafir Elkurd Guest

    Is it a automatic? If so, hold your left foot on the brake, put it in
    drive, and with you right foot bring up the RPM. Does it miss then? Is it
    always at the same spot that it starts? If so, turn the engine off. Bypass
    the vacuum hose going to the EGR valve and try again (you'll get a check
    engine light this time, but don't worry about it). If it goes away, you
    have plugged EGR ports in your intake manifold.
     
    Jafir Elkurd, Apr 23, 2005
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  14. Steve

    Jafir Elkurd Guest

    Is it a automatic? If so, hold your left foot on the brake, put it in
    drive, and with you right foot bring up the RPM. Does it miss then? Is it
    always at the same spot that it starts? If so, turn the engine off. Bypass
    the vacuum hose going to the EGR valve and try again (you'll get a check
    engine light this time, but don't worry about it). If it goes away, you
    have plugged EGR ports in your intake manifold.
     
    Jafir Elkurd, Apr 23, 2005
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  15. Steve

    rastapasta Guest



    Hey---sorry to jump in here, but this is what happens with my '92 Teg (RS I
    think). On low gears, it'll "buck" as you describe. Will this work on my
    non-VTEC engine (if this is the problem)?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7970464271&category=33557&sspagename=WDVW
    thnx
     
    rastapasta, Apr 26, 2005
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  16. Steve

    rastapasta Guest



    Hey---sorry to jump in here, but this is what happens with my '92 Teg (RS I
    think). On low gears, it'll "buck" as you describe. Will this work on my
    non-VTEC engine (if this is the problem)?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7970464271&category=33557&sspagename=WDVW
    thnx
     
    rastapasta, Apr 26, 2005
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  17. Steve

    SJD Guest

    Steve wrote:

    For everyone who replied, I lost all the great info. If you have any
    ideas on this problem please reply again.

    Sorry, my HD died and I lost all the PM you sent.

    Thanks

    Steve
     
    SJD, May 14, 2005
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  18. Steve

    SJD Guest

    Steve wrote:

    For everyone who replied, I lost all the great info. If you have any
    ideas on this problem please reply again.

    Sorry, my HD died and I lost all the PM you sent.

    Thanks

    Steve
     
    SJD, May 14, 2005
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  19. Steve

    SJD Guest

    I tried the first part and yes, it is around 1200-2000 RPM then smooths
    out. I suspect it is the throttle position sensor or blocked EGR port.
    I will try this on the week-end.

    Steve
     
    SJD, May 14, 2005
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  20. Steve

    SJD Guest

    I tried the first part and yes, it is around 1200-2000 RPM then smooths
    out. I suspect it is the throttle position sensor or blocked EGR port.
    I will try this on the week-end.

    Steve
     
    SJD, May 14, 2005
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