Modifications

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Ken, Apr 22, 2007.

  1. Ken

    Ken Guest

    would a catback exhaust kit or an air intake modification kit void Honda's 3
    year/36,000 mile warranty? Slso, how about a Spoiler add-on kit?

    tia
     
    Ken, Apr 22, 2007
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  2. Ken

    pheonix1t Guest

    most likely, yes.
    what model honda is this? Most of the time, these kits improve the
    performance marginally. For 20 HP you pay over $1000 and void the
    warranty in too many cases.
    I'd suggest forgetting the riceburner stuff and get practical. Or (if
    you prefer) go to your neighborhood tuner shop and fork over a good
    chunk of your yearly income to that shop.
    I'm sure the owner would really love your business.
     
    pheonix1t, Apr 23, 2007
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  3. Ken

    Ken Guest

    - 2006 Honda Civic-

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    Ken, Apr 23, 2007
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  4. Ken

    Jim Yanik Guest

    I doubt the spoiler add-on will void your warranty,but the cat-back and
    intake mods will.
     
    Jim Yanik, Apr 23, 2007
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  5. Ken

    Dano58 Guest

    Doesn't Honda make some of these items that you can add without
    voiding the warranty? I know that Audi has a whole line of parts for
    their cars.

    Dan D
    '07 Ody EX
    Central NJ USA
     
    Dano58, Apr 23, 2007
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  6. Ken

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Same for Toyota.
    AFAIK,Honda doesn't do engine performance mods,but optional
    wheels,spoilers,yes.

    I guess they figure,if you want "performance",you buy their CivicSI,an
    S2000,or void your warranty rolling your own.

    I really miss the Prelude. Honda/Acura really does not make any cars that
    interest me anymore.They've gone bland.
    IMO,they are missing the market by not making CRX and Prelude.
     
    Jim Yanik, Apr 23, 2007
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  7. Ken

    jim beam Guest

    indeed they are. a while back, i saw an article in the financial press
    slamming honda for handing their cult following of the civic [and to a
    lesser extent, prelude] to subaru on a plate. and they're right. honda
    don't make a single really tunable car these days. the civic [and crx
    and integra and prelude] used to rock, but they day they abandoned
    wishbones, they lost their market leadership. anyone seen an acura rsx
    lately, or whatever the integra replacement was? what a flop.] they
    were under challenge to some extent before as they were falling behind
    in horsepower, but lower power /and/ macpherson struts? may as well buy
    a subaru. or a toyota. the honda leadership that made that decision
    really had its head up its ass. i'm sure there were all kinds of
    "financial" reasons for the decision, but the reality is, kids buy cars
    they can tune, they become loyal, they grow up, have families, and buy
    bigger more expensive cars of the same brand. no kids falling in love
    with their first honda because it rocks, no brand loyalty. margins on
    the current civic may be slightly higher with a lower suspension
    component count, but it's not worth it if you're only selling one car.
    factor the $100 "loss" of better suspension over the next 5 to 10 cars a
    loyal consumer buys, then count the beans again honda.
     
    jim beam, Apr 24, 2007
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  8. SO TRUE ...Honda had a great oportunity at hand ..Honda needs a program
    like Dodge's SRT unit. Look at the NEON SRT-4 ..It has stage 1-2-&3 kits
    available from Mopar through the dealership. You could actually go into
    a delaership and add that to the cost. Also the ACR package was
    available as an option. The NEON while not exactly eye pleasing ..Puts
    out staggering numbers for a low cost car...I mean 1/4 mile less than
    14sec ..0-60 in 5.3 sec.....top speed 153 -gov limited..and thats bone
    stock..ADD a stage 3 turbo and whew..And I hear that the NEON SRT-4
    handles very well. Ive been a loyal Honda customer for 20 years but Im
    jumping fence to the SRT ..Im probably gonna get a used Neon srt-4 or
    maybe the caliber srt-4 when its out...I mean $20K for a 300 HP car
    ..260 TQ..sheesh..I currently have a del sol vtec ..iM considering going
    turbo..but after supsension upgrades and etc. That'll push me up into
    $10 K or more..plus its still a mushy del sol...Not me Im jumping on the
    SRT bandwagon..There tuners built for tuners..ALL in factory fresh
    from...If I could afford 30 grand for an an evo or sti I would but we'll
    see...Bye bye Honda...PLus too ...all honda engines seem to have very
    low torque numbers. Anyhoo laytz
     
    Private Private, Apr 24, 2007
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  9. Ken

    isquat Guest

    i could not think of a single thing civic has in common with impreza
    of any kind.
    rex is essentially a muscle car that unlike mustang comes with the
    necessary hardware to put every bit of the power from the monster
    motor
    to the ground.

    civic si is a nicely balanced fun car with a carefully tuned
    suspension
    and communicative steering. something where impreza is greatly
    lacking.

    you'd drop the rex, put a stiff sway bar and retune the ecu and
    end up with a more expensive car that sucks in a similar way.

    you'd try to mod civic engine and end up detonating it or otherwise
    end up with an undrivable piece of shit with a fart can attached.

    i'm not sure what could you really tune about the car aside from the
    tire swap to improve performance on a rice racer budget.
    hmm, what subaru and toyota? I'm trying to think of a single fun
    car on a budget subayota makes. sti maybe? still more muscle
    and a front lsd to put even more prodigious amounds of power down.
    maybe if you want to(can) pay $33k and for some reason mitsubishi evo
    warranty stories don't impress you.
    ok the other way around: kids grow up become fat and complacent
    and want the cars with the family couch properties. or so the
    marketers
    think. if there was demand for celica toyolet would be still making
    that car
    don't you think?
    same with prelude and crx
     
    isquat, Apr 24, 2007
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  10. Same with Toyota. They have dropped all the exciting cars for "Bread and
    Butter".

    But, all the people that were looking at the peppier Toyotas are now
    driving either Civics or Scions.

    As far as the parts problem, what about Mugen? They were Honda's in-house
    performance parts division.
     
    Hachiroku ハチロク, Apr 24, 2007
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  11. The Current Si is nice. Buts its still just too cutsey for me. But that
    is the formula thats kept the civic going strong all these years. Any
    Mugen style honda would most likely be overpriced IMO. If Honda had
    lets say a 2008 Civic Si Type Mugen. It would probably be in the $30 K
    range. Albeit would be a nice car. But I just like goal of the SRT
    program, low cost, high value for the dollar with good numbers. You get
    a true track ready budget racer that is faster than cars costing 2-3
    times as much. And it boasts a 13.5-14 second 1/4 mile bone Stock
    w/stock tires.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_SRT-4
     
    Private Private, Apr 25, 2007
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