Mutant Accord

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Nasty, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. Nasty

    Nasty Guest

    I've been all over the internet and my Chilton's is damn near useless.

    There is supposed to be a green door under my dash on the passenger side,
    behind the glove box. Behind this door is supposed to be a blue two pin
    connector that I use to get a more specific malfunction code. Not.

    The car is supposed to have two fuse boxes. Not. It has three. One on each
    end of the dash and one in the engine compartment.

    This is the 2000 Accord, F23A4, VTech that I replaced the head on. I'm
    getting a CEL with a code of P1259, VTec sysetm malfunction. I've replaced
    the VTech solenoid and verified that the oil level is correct. The engine
    runs great. It does not overheat. Occassionally I've thought it "smelled
    hot" if you know what I mean. No fluid leaks of any kind. A visual
    inspection of the gas cap is negative. (It's the original gas cap and has
    been dropped in the past.)

    Where is this mystery two pin connector I use to count the CEL blinks???????

    Anybody wanna buy a car?
     
    Nasty, Jul 10, 2006
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  2. Your 2000 Accord uses OBD-II and therefore, the codes are retrieved using a
    OBD-II code reader that plugs into a diagnostic port (I do not know where it
    is on this particular car).

    The blue 2-pin connector you are thinking of was used on 1990-95 Accords
    which used OBD-I (except the '95 V6 which was OBD-II).
     
    High Tech Misfit, Jul 10, 2006
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    Look at the Dealer PDI sheets for your Accord:

    These are the ones for the generation after yours, but some facts will
    be true http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/accord/x02-051e.pdf

    Poke through this page too:
    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/online-manuals.html



    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Jul 11, 2006
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  4. Nasty

    TeGGeR® Guest




    That is incorrect. The Service Check Connector (for that is the 2-pin
    connector's name) provides only basic info. The OBD-II DLC connector is
    what gives you everything the computer knows.
    For instance, the CEL will flash code 90 for both P1546 and P1457, but an
    OBD-II reader will differentiate between the two.

    Honda did include the old CEL-flash method for several years past 1995, so
    those cars did have two ways of checking an error code.




    NORMALLY...this 2-pin connector is behind the top of the passenger (right
    side) kick panel. Fish around with your hand until you find the loose
    connector. Jump with a paper clip. Your Accord might be different, but I'm
    too lazy to go looking thru my manuals. (See how lazy I am? I couldn't even
    finish the word "through"...)
     
    TeGGeR®, Jul 11, 2006
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  5. Nasty

    Nasty Guest

    I suppose that would explain why I couln't find it... I guess I'll start
    putting the moulding back on now.

    Thanks.
     
    Nasty, Jul 11, 2006
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  6. Nasty

    Nasty Guest

    Thanks Curly. Good stuff.
     
    Nasty, Jul 11, 2006
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  7. Nasty

    Nasty Guest

    Crap. I thought I read that the SCC was more specific than the OBD-II (which
    can be pretty vague).
    Prolly not worth the effort now that you've explained things.

    Thanks again TeGGer.
     
    Nasty, Jul 11, 2006
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  8. Nasty

    TeGGeR® Guest



    OBD-II is capable of up to 9,999 error codes on account of its 4-digit
    descrption. Theoretically, Honda's own diag could be made to show more than
    that, but when the government forces Honda to spend money to include OBD-II
    capabilities, there's not much incentive to keep the old diag system past a
    model change. Therefore, Honda only made the CEL system show the basics.
     
    TeGGeR®, Jul 11, 2006
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