My Si has a DX motor!

Um, no, you should have opened the hood and looked and known exactly
what you were buying.

The used car dealer's job is merely to present the car to you. It's not
his job to be your friend, hold your hand, and look out for your best
interests. You're on your own.

That's not meant to be mean; it's simply reality. It's time you owned
up to the fact that you live in reality.

Did you do a carfax? What did it say?

 

How the hell would HE know? This is a used car. He got it and is now
reselling it.

If he fucked up and ended up with a car that was hard/impossible to
sell, that's his problem. But he just bought a car and is trying to
sell it. He's not there to look after your best interests.

 

How the hell would HE know? This is a used car. He got it and is now
reselling it.

If he fucked up and ended up with a car that was hard/impossible to
sell, that's his problem. But he just bought a car and is trying to
sell it. He's not there to look after your best interests.

 

So I guess it is an Si then.

But in any case you're supposed to have a D16A6 in there. At least
according to my CRX factory shop manual.

Hmm. I'm looking at your Owner's Manual right now. It does not show a
sticker in that location. The shop manual does though, but that sticker
should only show the VIN, not the engine number. The engine number is only
on the block.

Some markets (Japan for instance) required automakers to record the engine
number on a plate within the engine compartment (usually above left front
wheel). I don't think this was ever done for our market.

 

So I guess it is an Si then.

But in any case you're supposed to have a D16A6 in there. At least
according to my CRX factory shop manual.

Hmm. I'm looking at your Owner's Manual right now. It does not show a
sticker in that location. The shop manual does though, but that sticker
should only show the VIN, not the engine number. The engine number is only
on the block.

Some markets (Japan for instance) required automakers to record the engine
number on a plate within the engine compartment (usually above left front
wheel). I don't think this was ever done for our market.

 

It's a little-known thing, but even dealers get screwed sometimes.

I know of dealers who, trying to flesh out their used inventory, have
bought seemingly-good cars at auction that later turned out to have major
problems.

The worst part is that they can't just turn around and put it back up for
grabs again. That would look extremely suspicious and the car would likely
not resell. So what do they do? Fix it up as best they can and put it on
their lot anyway. Oops.

 

It's a little-known thing, but even dealers get screwed sometimes.

I know of dealers who, trying to flesh out their used inventory, have
bought seemingly-good cars at auction that later turned out to have major
problems.

The worst part is that they can't just turn around and put it back up for
grabs again. That would look extremely suspicious and the car would likely
not resell. So what do they do? Fix it up as best they can and put it on
their lot anyway. Oops.

 

That's weird - I assume you're looking at the online version. I have an
hardcopy manual here which I just got, and page 97 in it is identical to
the online version, except the diagram shows an additional arrow for
"Engine Number" pointing at the location I mentioned above, and the text
reads "The Engine Number is stamped on the engine block at the right
front side and on the identification plate on the radiator support
bulkhead." It's a 1990 manual, and it has American Honda's address on
the back cover, but it was printed in Japan.

Dave

 

That's weird - I assume you're looking at the online version. I have an
hardcopy manual here which I just got, and page 97 in it is identical to
the online version, except the diagram shows an additional arrow for
"Engine Number" pointing at the location I mentioned above, and the text
reads "The Engine Number is stamped on the engine block at the right
front side and on the identification plate on the radiator support
bulkhead." It's a 1990 manual, and it has American Honda's address on
the back cover, but it was printed in Japan.

Dave

 

If the dealer knew...

 

If the dealer knew...

 

Sometimes, this works to the buyer's advantage, too.

My last Dodge Caravan was bought from a local Dodge dealer, used. When I
went there, he offered me a test drive, explaining that it was a
4-cylinder, but had plenty of power.

I drove it, and was certain that it was a 6. I had previously owned 2 6
cylinder 3.3L caravan's, and this one had the same feel, power-wise.

When he went in to get me a final price (based on it being a 4), I popped
the hood, and verified it was a 3.3L. It had only 30K on it, and I walked
away with it for just over $8,000.

I sure as hell wasn't telling him they had it marked wrong... ;-)

 

Sometimes, this works to the buyer's advantage, too.

My last Dodge Caravan was bought from a local Dodge dealer, used. When I
went there, he offered me a test drive, explaining that it was a
4-cylinder, but had plenty of power.

I drove it, and was certain that it was a 6. I had previously owned 2 6
cylinder 3.3L caravan's, and this one had the same feel, power-wise.

When he went in to get me a final price (based on it being a 4), I popped
the hood, and verified it was a 3.3L. It had only 30K on it, and I walked
away with it for just over $8,000.

I sure as hell wasn't telling him they had it marked wrong... ;-)

 

I am. From American Honda itself.
https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/logon.asp

According to Honda, the online version is the final one, embodying all
the additions, supplements and corrections issued since the paper one
was printed.

It's entirely possible the diagram in your printed manual is in error.
Like I said before, some markets did require the engine number to be on
a plate separate from the engine, and it's possible the wrong diagram
was used in the print version you've got.

 

I am. From American Honda itself.
https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/logon.asp

According to Honda, the online version is the final one, embodying all
the additions, supplements and corrections issued since the paper one
was printed.

It's entirely possible the diagram in your printed manual is in error.
Like I said before, some markets did require the engine number to be on
a plate separate from the engine, and it's possible the wrong diagram
was used in the print version you've got.

 

Best case, the dealer has a system that matches the VIN with the car's
configuration from the factory. That's all he knows.

Car dealers aren't experts on cars. They're experts on getting people
onto the lot and to buy cars.

 

Best case, the dealer has a system that matches the VIN with the car's
configuration from the factory. That's all he knows.

Car dealers aren't experts on cars. They're experts on getting people
onto the lot and to buy cars.

 

awwwwwwwww the poor dealers.....