My Si has a DX motor!

Maybe but torque is a direct result of stroke whereas a short stroker
will enjoy a faster windup...

How's dat fer a daffynishun?

JT

 

Absolutely!

 

There are plenty out there - I've read positive comments about these
folks as well - http://www.hmotorsonline.com/

Yeah, I was thinking of B18s re: 200hp - the B16s are usually around
160.

I thought that link looked familiar, it's the same dude with the
"Larry's Civic" page. Looks like really top-notch work, but until I win
the lottery, I'll probably stick with something considerably less
exotic.

ZCs seem to be around 130, but some people think that number is understated.

Definitely. I've never been too happy with the stock brakes with the
current engine, so I'd probably do a brake upgrade at the same time as
the engine swap.

Dave

 

There are plenty out there - I've read positive comments about these
folks as well - http://www.hmotorsonline.com/

Yeah, I was thinking of B18s re: 200hp - the B16s are usually around
160.

I thought that link looked familiar, it's the same dude with the
"Larry's Civic" page. Looks like really top-notch work, but until I win
the lottery, I'll probably stick with something considerably less
exotic.

ZCs seem to be around 130, but some people think that number is understated.

Definitely. I've never been too happy with the stock brakes with the
current engine, so I'd probably do a brake upgrade at the same time as
the engine swap.

Dave

 

Well, JT's got a point, but now that I've already opened my virtual
mouth, the cat's out of the bag. Now that I think back on it, I had
indications it was a 1.5L after comments from the shops who did timing
belt changes at 60K and 115K, but they never mentioned the engine number
stamped on the block or the possibility that it wasn't the original
engine. And it's really not as big of a deal as I probably made it
sound, especially since I've been considering a swap anyway for quite
some time.

The D15 in the DX is rated at 90hp, and the D16 in the Si is rated at
110hp. My car's not exactly sluggish, and the current engine runs well,
but that's still a pretty healthy amount of power to be giving away,
especially in such a light car.

Oh, and JT, this one's for you:

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=351953

Too bad an engine swap is even being discussed - I'd leave it exactly as
is. Actually, the $3200 he spent on paint would've paid for one hell of
a mechanical restoration, plus a "normal" paint job.

Dave

 

Well, JT's got a point, but now that I've already opened my virtual
mouth, the cat's out of the bag. Now that I think back on it, I had
indications it was a 1.5L after comments from the shops who did timing
belt changes at 60K and 115K, but they never mentioned the engine number
stamped on the block or the possibility that it wasn't the original
engine. And it's really not as big of a deal as I probably made it
sound, especially since I've been considering a swap anyway for quite
some time.

The D15 in the DX is rated at 90hp, and the D16 in the Si is rated at
110hp. My car's not exactly sluggish, and the current engine runs well,
but that's still a pretty healthy amount of power to be giving away,
especially in such a light car.

Oh, and JT, this one's for you:

http://www.houston-imports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=351953

Too bad an engine swap is even being discussed - I'd leave it exactly as
is. Actually, the $3200 he spent on paint would've paid for one hell of
a mechanical restoration, plus a "normal" paint job.

Dave

 

I've seen CRX shells, with no motor or trans, sell for more than $700.
Trade-in values are always ridiculously low, but I can't imagine many
CRX owners trying to trade them in at a dealer vs. a private sale.
Anyone who doesn't think $1500-2000 for a generally clean, unmodified
88-91 CRX is easily attainable isn't familiar with how much in demand
these cars still are. A really nice one that's been well-maintained by
an original owner will sell for considerably more.

Dave

 

I've seen CRX shells, with no motor or trans, sell for more than $700.
Trade-in values are always ridiculously low, but I can't imagine many
CRX owners trying to trade them in at a dealer vs. a private sale.
Anyone who doesn't think $1500-2000 for a generally clean, unmodified
88-91 CRX is easily attainable isn't familiar with how much in demand
these cars still are. A really nice one that's been well-maintained by
an original owner will sell for considerably more.

Dave

 

Heh heh... I have '82 and '83 1300 hatchbacks. Maybe I should pimp 'em
out for "big" bucks!

JT

(Could I shoe horn a V6 in one of them thar' suckahs???)

 

Heh heh... I have '82 and '83 1300 hatchbacks. Maybe I should pimp 'em
out for "big" bucks!

JT

(Could I shoe horn a V6 in one of them thar' suckahs???)

 

Dave Garrett wrote:

do you use oem pads or aftermarket? my experience with aftermarket pads
is very poor - bad wear, bad fade, poor stopping power... now i use oem
and am very happy. and this opinion was recently re-reinforced by my
new crx that has aftermarket pads - just doesn't stop like it should.

 

Dave Garrett wrote:

do you use oem pads or aftermarket? my experience with aftermarket pads
is very poor - bad wear, bad fade, poor stopping power... now i use oem
and am very happy. and this opinion was recently re-reinforced by my
new crx that has aftermarket pads - just doesn't stop like it should.

 

that's insane. don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful thing, but i want a
car that goes - that means goes fast, stops fast, and pulls g's when
cornering. the old cvcc's are just not on a par with the 88-91's in any
way.

 

that's insane. don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful thing, but i want a
car that goes - that means goes fast, stops fast, and pulls g's when
cornering. the old cvcc's are just not on a par with the 88-91's in any
way.

 

no kidding. i just paid $1k for an unmodded crx - one lady owner from
new. 105k miles. immaculate inside. 100% stock [apart from the brake
pads]. never crashed. paint's not so great, but it's all stock. i've
only had it a week, but already i've had two people offer to buy it!

 

no kidding. i just paid $1k for an unmodded crx - one lady owner from
new. 105k miles. immaculate inside. 100% stock [apart from the brake
pads]. never crashed. paint's not so great, but it's all stock. i've
only had it a week, but already i've had two people offer to buy it!

 

I've used both in the past, but I just had the brakes redone several
weeks ago, and OEM pads were used. Had to have the brake booster
replaced last year when it failed catastrophically (that was exciting,
as it happened on the freeway), and the master cylinder was replaced
prior to that. I'm thinking about installing braided stainless lines to
see if that improves things, but will probably wind up converting to
'teg brakes sooner or later.

Dave

 

I've used both in the past, but I just had the brakes redone several
weeks ago, and OEM pads were used. Had to have the brake booster
replaced last year when it failed catastrophically (that was exciting,
as it happened on the freeway), and the master cylinder was replaced
prior to that. I'm thinking about installing braided stainless lines to
see if that improves things, but will probably wind up converting to
'teg brakes sooner or later.

Dave

 

Well, yeah, but the old cvcc's are fine around-town cars - you just have
to adjust your expectations performance-wise accordingly.

OTOH, there's this:

http://ns.netmcr.com/~mdouglas/civic1200.html

I've come to the conclusion that no matter how extreme something is car-
wise, someone's probably not only thought of it already but has actually
done it. Case in point: there's a guy on the cover of either the current
or last month's issue of Super Street who has shoehorned a 700hp turbo
K-series engine into a Fit. And it's not a stripped-down race car.

Dave

 

Well, yeah, but the old cvcc's are fine around-town cars - you just have
to adjust your expectations performance-wise accordingly.

OTOH, there's this:

http://ns.netmcr.com/~mdouglas/civic1200.html

I've come to the conclusion that no matter how extreme something is car-
wise, someone's probably not only thought of it already but has actually
done it. Case in point: there's a guy on the cover of either the current
or last month's issue of Super Street who has shoehorned a 700hp turbo
K-series engine into a Fit. And it's not a stripped-down race car.

Dave