Need advice for purchasing new Honda

Hi,

I'd like to purchase a new Honda, preferably the Civic or Accord Hybrid, but
the 3yr/36000 mi warranty concerns me. I have 2 other other Hondas (90
Accord that I'm selling and, a 96 Civic) and they have been very reliable,
but hybrids are new types of engines, and I don't have any info regarding
their reliability in the long term. Also, I imagine fixing and servicing a
hybrid must be more expensive than the regular type of car.

The Civic Hybrid only has about 100 hp, and I was wondering if this is
enough power for day to day driving - doesn't it feel too sluggish?

I like the 10yr/100k mi warranty on Hyundai, but the milage is putting me
off - a Civic equivalent - Elantra - has the same milage as the Accord.

Anybody would like to comment on these points? Anything else worth knowing
before purchasing one?

I'd appreciate any help,

Adrian

 

Get the Accord hybrid.

It has over 200hp V6 and gets close to 40MPG.

Believe the batteries are warrantied longer at around 7 years.




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Have you ever tried the magazine "Consumer Reports"?

The April issue is a comprehensive discussion of car buying and
reviews of cars. Also, it will direct you to back issues that discuss
specific models of cars, like the Honda hybrids.

Or google for {Honda hybrid}. Lots of discussion of performance should
come up.

I think the Toyota hybrid (Prius) is generally still considered
superior to the Honda hybrids available.

 

I think the Toyota hybrid (Prius) is generally still considered

It won't be when the Accord hybrid arrives. V6 255hp and 38MPG (hwy)!


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38 mpg? That justifies the extra bucks for a hybrid?

I can't see the greenies who lean towards hybrids caring about high
horsepower.

(hwy)!

 

38 mpg? That justifies the extra bucks for a hybrid?

What are you, a stupid repube?

Hybrid owners *WANT* higher HP, but are willing to sacrifice it in the name of
higher MPG. Potential Hybrid owners are reluctant to buy it because of the lack
of HP. Now the Accord addresses both concerns by providing MORE hp and extra
10MPG.

Go drive your Suburban in to a lake, bitch.




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So the Accord Hybrid marketing department wants their CEOs and
pimpdaddi's to believe. ;-)

This is not only not going to sell Honda Hybrids; it's also not going
to sell your argument.

 

So the Accord Hybrid marketing department wants their CEOs and

So it's the word of a reputable company, who's been in the business for half a
century vs. some stupid bimbo on a NG.
I choose the bimbo. NOT.

Accord Hybrid will sell itself. You driving in to the lake would solve the
"condom broke," issue ur parents had.



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Have you ever tried the magazine "Consumer Reports"?Yes, I have, but nothing beats the experience and opinions of a real user.

Thanks all for your answers!

Adrian

 

I have a 2003 Civic Hybrid with 36,000 miles. My only problem has been
loose plastic inside. No Hybrid/CVT issues. The batteries are warranted
for 8/80. I also bought a HondaCare warranty for 10/100 that has a refund
if I don't use it.

I suppose that depends on what you are comparing it against.
The CVT helps a lot. It makes the car seem much smoother and quicker than
a "normal" Civic automatic. The one place that I wish I had more power is
on an expressway onramp when the guy in front of me stops, leaving me at
least part way down the ramp, needing the 0-60 power that I don't have.
It seems fine at freeway speeds and in mountains, and also fine 0-30 in
city driving. I think 0-60 is about 12 seconds, which used to be a decent
number for a little car, maybe when 100hp seemed like a lot.

I don't like the Accord. I prefer the Civic. The Civic Hybrid is the only
Honda I would own. I don't like the Standard Civic.


I have seen 100 mile stretches of 80 mph cruise with A/C at 42mpg.
I have seen 20 mile stretches at 45mph at 65mpg.

2003 Civic Hybrid SULEV CVT automatic. San Jose, CA to Benicia, CA.
60mph cruise control, 59.0 miles, 59.0 mpg.
70mph cruise control, 59.0 miles, 52.0 mpg.
http://www.rahul.net/dold/clarence/Honda_Mileage.htm

 

Not always true. After spending big bucks, some folks would not admit to
making a bad decision. Consumer reports might be more un-biased.

 

When I bought my Civic (non hybrid) the extended warranty out to 100K
miles was about $800 extra. My understanding is the civic hybrid is a
perfectly nice car, great on gas especially in the city. My civic
gets 36-38 mpg, which is just fine. The performance isn't
spectacular, but it's good enough.

I don't know if you lose trunk space with the hybrid, better check.
The accord looks nice, but you have to buy the top line model for a
lot of money to get the hybrid option.

 

The rear seat doesn't fold down, because the battery pack and controller
are upright behind the seat, so you lose the utility of the pass through
into the trunk. The battery pack is only about 3 inches thick, so there
isn't much trunk volume lost. The Honda Comparison says the Hybrid has 10.1
cu.ft. of cargo space, and the LX has 12.9. Three cubic feet is more than
I would have guessed. The trunk seems plenty large.

<http://automobiles.honda.com/models/model_overview.asp?ModelName=Civic+Hybrid>

Some components on the AT-PZEV emissions warranty are covered for 150,000
miles.

 

You live in Pennsylvania? I once visited there for a weekend and
saw it happen a few times. After seeing it happen, I always left
a huge following distance behind other cars on the on-ramp. So when
someone stopped at the end of the on-ramp in front of me, I was able
to stop at the beginning, in order to have the whole on-ramp to get
up to freeway speed (the rental car, a Geo Prizm with 3-speed automatic,
needed that distance).

Why do people in Pennsylvania do that? It is extremely unsafe, since
stopping at the end of the on-ramp means no acceleration room to go
from a dead stop to freeway speed. And it forces everyone behind to
drive unsafely as well.

 

It's common in CA. Only cause we have stop-lights called "Meters" on almost
every on-ramp. The worst is the old Pasadena fwy, where on-ramps are very very
short.



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Nope. One of the other Blue States ;-)
I can almost guess when a driver is likely to stop. I try to leave quite a
gap, but some of them putter down the onramp, and decide to stop after I
think they are ready to get on the expressway.

 

They learned it from the morons in Akron.

 

The one time I drove in Pennsylvania, there would be a stop sign at
the end of each ramp. Good thing I had something more powerful than a
Prizm.

(In California, entering traffic is supposed to yield, but typically
just charges ahead without yielding. Drivers used to this behavior get
perplexed by yield-on enter or stop-on-enter states, or on the
Pasadena Freeway, which still has stop signs on the (rather short)
ramps.)

 

That always seemed counter-intuitive to me. The traffic already on the
freeway typically has a much better view, and more time to react, than the
driver coming onto the freeway from an angled onramp with obstructed
rearward views.

Oh, well... foot to the floor, IMA humming, barge right in.

 

The Pasadena Freeway is one of the first in the country, very out of date and
not at all typical. On most there is plenty of room after the stop line of the
metering lights to get up to speed before merging, unless you drive an ancient
piece of junk or you are behind a big-rig.