Need feedback on new car purchase

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Space Chimp, Sep 23, 2008.

  1. Space Chimp

    SMS Guest

    Well legally they can't back out if you decide not to finance, but they
    find ways to do so. This happened to me, and I never told them I was
    going to finance to begin with. It was an "all in stock at this price"
    ad, and clearly what they really meant was "all in stock at this price"
    if you finance or buy a warranty. Eventually we prevailed, but it was a
    real pain in the butt.

    The other thing you can do is to ensure that there is no prepayment
    penalties on the loan, and finance it, then pay it off right away. You
    don't even have to wait for the payment coupons to be sent to you, you
    can find out the loan number, the balance, and send them an electronic
    check.

    Also remember to make as big of a down payment as they'll allow with a
    rewards credit card. Last time I bought a car the max was $5000.
     
    SMS, Sep 27, 2008
    #21
  2. Space Chimp

    SMS Guest

    Yes, especially if it's through their own financing companies rather
    than through the manufacturer's special rate financing.
     
    SMS, Sep 27, 2008
    #22
  3. Space Chimp

    Space Chimp Guest

    I know a lot of those guys are sleazy liars, but they also have to
    make a living. I don't want to end up looking as bad as some
    of them, with tricky tactics. I ended up paying $24,238 total
    driveout price for an '09 Accord EX automatic, and it also
    had some of the dealer add-ons. According to Edmunds at
    least, I did okay I think. What the hell, we love the car.
    (We didn't buy from the original dealership I was complaining
    about though.)
     
    Space Chimp, Sep 27, 2008
    #23
  4. Space Chimp

    Nicholas Guest

    The thing about dealerships is that they're a dime a dozen, just like
    every other commodity in the world. If you don't like one for any
    reason, walk away and don't look back.
     
    Nicholas, Sep 27, 2008
    #24
  5. You have received good advice. Use Edmunds to come up with what you are
    willing to pay and then figure the sales tax. If the dealer agrees, he
    should write up a sales agreement that comes up to that total. That's what
    you sign and he/she signs. You then have a contract.

    When you make an offer, the sales person will give the BS that he has to
    have his sales manager review it. So the sales dweeb goes in the backroom,
    spaknks hsis monkey, and comes back with a counter offer with some BS that
    the color you want is in high demand. Tell hm no deal.

    The first Honda I bought in 1979 was in such high demand I paid $500 over
    sticker and had to take whatever color that came in. So I got the color no
    one wanted - beige. When I went to pick up the car, the saleman gave me a
    new contract to sign that was a couple of bucks higher than the original.
    The salesman said it was for gas in the tank. I told him we had an
    agreement and he was welcome to take some of the gas out of the tank. Safe
    to say, I drove it away at the original contract price. But the dealer made
    an extra $500 on the deal anyway.
     
    Question Quigley, Sep 28, 2008
    #25
  6. Space Chimp

    HLS Guest

    Depends on the situation. Before the dotted lines are signed, several
    lines
    of management can veto the sale.

    Once a deal is made and authenticated, you have legal grounds for a lawsuit.

    Really, guys, it isnt this difficult. These people want to sell cars.
    Find someone
    you can work with.
     
    HLS, Sep 29, 2008
    #26
  7. Space Chimp

    HLS Guest

    Buying a car at the best price is like playing a poker hand. You will NEVER
    get a $25,000 car for $11, 000.

    Be smart, be reasonable.

    The invoice price, as I posted earlier, is total bullshit. It is NOT an
    invoice price.

    If you cant afford a new car, buy Cuhulin's old van. If you CAN, negociate
    for
    the best deal you can get and then go with it.
     
    HLS, Sep 29, 2008
    #27
  8. Space Chimp

    jdoe Guest

    not one of you "experts" posted the one idea that works well, since
    the advent of the WWW, most dealers have internet sales depts.
    These guys will respond to internet queries and you aren't limited to
    shopping for a car by geography. I have saved tons of money by
    shopping for a car online and then driving 100-300 miles for delivery.
    I live in FLA and bought my last car in NJ, they were willing to ship
    the car as part of the deal and I saved over 6k from what my local
    dealerships wanted for the car.
    The moral to the story is that you do't need to run around to the
    dealerships, sit there and suffer their silly tactics when you can sit
    at home at shop for the car you want from any dealership in the
    country and possibly find a great deal without leaving your house.

    __________________________________________
    Never argue with an idiot.
    They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
     
    jdoe, Sep 29, 2008
    #28
  9. Space Chimp

    E Meyer Guest

    I have had luck in the past getting the best internet quote from wherever
    and then taking it to the local dealer to match or beat. They usually will.

    This past summer when I was in the market for a new car I found five of six
    dealers queried did not even bother to respond to requests for internet
    quotes. I don't know if they are wising up to it or just too lazy to be
    bothered.

    The one thing I always do is deal to the bottom line - the number I am going
    to write on my check. If they want to load on this that or the other
    gratuitous fee, its coming out of somebody's commission.
     
    E Meyer, Sep 29, 2008
    #29
  10. Space Chimp

    Rod Speed Guest

    Yeah, thats what I did. The local dealer did claim that he was paying
    a slightly higher delivery charge for the cars than those in the state
    capitals were paying and that turned out to be correct and when that
    small increase was a lot less than it would have cost me to fly to the
    state capital to pick up the car, it was well worth getting it locally and
    not risking them trying to play silly buggers on warranty claims.

    Turned out that I didnt have any warranty claims at all, not one.
     
    Rod Speed, Sep 29, 2008
    #30
  11. Space Chimp

    M.A. Stewart Guest


    I hear what you're saying. Just a small question regarding the sandwich.
    Since the sandwich would imply an anticipation of a marathon by the
    shopper, would you recommend a sandwich which is heavy on the garlic, or a
    sandwich which is devoid of garlic?

    I'm thinking garlic might speed things up a little, especially for the
    shopper who is impaired in the ability to recognize other people's
    "personal space".
     
    M.A. Stewart, Oct 2, 2008
    #31
  12. Space Chimp

    e.meyer Guest

    I'm not sure it would make much difference. Most of them talk to you
    for 30 seconds or so then disappear for 10 minutes to "run it by the
    manager".
     
    e.meyer, Oct 3, 2008
    #32
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