Need plans for 92 Accord AC

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Greg Campbell, May 20, 2006.

  1. Help!
    It's May in Tucson, and my AC is on the fritz.

    My 92 Accord Wagon has an apparent AC leak. AC worked in Feb, when I
    bought the car, and when I exercised it (but didn't really need it)
    during the winter and spring. Now that it's 100f, there is no coolant
    pressure at the filling valve and, unsurprisingly, no cool air. I've
    got a leak and am looking for a schematic or service manual for the AC
    system. My Clymer is worthless. Do any of the aftermarket manuals
    cover the AC system in any depth? If not, where can I find the info?
    Google isn't sniffing out what I need.

    I've fed the system a small can of 134 based coolant and oil, with UV
    dye. This gets me slightly cool air, but does not reveal any leakage.
    I haven't run the system for more than a few minutes for fear the
    mongrell coolant load will damage something.

    The previous owner had just installed a new compressor before selling.
    There is no sign of dye on or near the compressor, or fittings.

    I'd like a fairly comprehensive AC guide, so I can take out various
    sections for cleaning/testing/replacement.

    Thanks!

    -Greg
     
    Greg Campbell, May 20, 2006
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  2. Leaks occur in two common places: round the hose O-rings and through pin
    hole corrosion in alloy parts.

    Less commonly it leaks through the wall of old R12-type hoses.

    Your 92 was built for R12 refrigerant When the compressor was replaced, the
    system may have been updated to R1134a, which requires new O-rings. If this
    was done, there should be an update sticker somewhere, typically on the
    inside of the hood.

    Locate the high pressure valve on the tube that comes from the condensor in
    front of the radiator. Press this for a moment. If you get a loud, sharp
    SHHH sound, the pressure is OK. If you get a quiet, soft shhh, you still
    have residual pressure, and you can top up the system with Duracool or
    similar compatible refrigerant for about $20

    If you have no residual pressure, then you need to take the car to an A/C
    shop because you can't do this yourself unless you have the right
    (expensive) equipment. Have them do the following.
    a) replace all O-rings with R1134a compatibles.
    b) if the system was still R12, pull the compressor off, replace the oil and
    fit the necessary R1134a fittings, and replace the drier cannister.
    c) evacuate the system (this is what you can't do yourself) to test for
    leaks. If the hoses themselves are leaking, you will have to get new hoses.
    d) refill with R1134a.

    Get a quote from several shops. It should be in the $200 or so plus parts
    range. No shop can tell the hoses are bad without running tests.

    Stewart DIBBS
     
    Stewart DIBBS, May 20, 2006
    #2
  3. It was still fitted with the R12 valve with no 134 sticker in sight.
    Got a pressure guage. It drops daily, so I seem to have a very real
    leak to find and fix.
    Heh. That $200 thingy is what I was hoping to reduce!

    I know I can't properly evacuate, test, and recharge the system. I do
    plan to go over the whole system, chasing the coolant leak and replacing
    any tired parts, seals, o-rings, etc. as I go.

    Thanks for the info!

    -Greg
     
    Greg Campbell, May 20, 2006
    #3
  4. Greg Campbell

    Bob Guest


    But if you don't evacuate the system, you'll actually be wasting
    money!
     
    Bob, May 21, 2006
    #4

  5. I'll have a service center test, purge and refill it when I'm done.
    FWIW, I ran the system for a few more minutes and I found a leak; it's
    at the front of the condenser - about as easy as possible to access and
    fix. Also, one of Tegger's links led me to Autozone and some good
    diagrams and and instructions - all I really needed. With any luck,
    I'll be in cold air tomorrow! :)

    -Greg
     
    Greg Campbell, May 21, 2006
    #5
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