Need ways to start a car with a dead battery.- 92 Civic Auto.

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Sam Nickaby, Feb 14, 2006.

  1. Sam Nickaby

    Arif Khokar Guest

    Pooh Bear wrote:
    [headlamp reminder chime]
    The '84 Prelude I used to drive had this feature. I wonder why a '92
    Civic wouldn't.
     
    Arif Khokar, Feb 15, 2006
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  2. Sam Nickaby

    Pooh Bear Guest

    If the OP could remember the use of switches we wouldn't even be having this
    discussion.

    Graham
     
    Pooh Bear, Feb 15, 2006
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  3. Under NORMAL conditions, yes. When you're push-starting, not so;
    you're running the car off the alternator.
     
    Matthew Russotto, Feb 15, 2006
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    gpsman Guest

     
    gpsman, Feb 15, 2006
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  5. Sam Nickaby

    Pooh Bear Guest

    It's a puzzle.

    Graham
     
    Pooh Bear, Feb 15, 2006
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    Don Bruder Guest

    Less of a puzzle when one notices some of the posts the OP made in a few
    other newsgroups recently. All of them have a distinct aroma of "let's
    see how many responses we can trigger with a question that looks at
    least semi-real at first glance, but upon examination, is obviously
    bogus".

    As in, I think it might be time to hang out the "we have been trolled"
    sign...
     
    Don Bruder, Feb 15, 2006
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    y_p_w Guest

    I left my parking lights on overnight. Didn't think it would
    drain the battery down that much, but it did. The power door
    locks barely functioned, but there wasn't enough juice to get
    the starter going.

    Fortunately the manager where I was staying was used to
    battery problems in his own vehicle and had one of those jump
    starter kits. As soon as I got home I looked into getting
    one for myself. They typically provide a "boost" but most
    can't compensate for a completely drained battery. There are
    more powerful units that might. Some come with air pumps and/
    or power inverters.

    I ordered a couple of these from Amazon. $39.95 each with
    free ground shipping. This particular one is out of stock,
    but they have different manufacturers/models. You can
    probably find similar boxes at Wal-Mart or auto supply
    stores.

    <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00030BFJW>
     
    y_p_w, Feb 15, 2006
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  8. I have that exact same model -also-. Call me paranoid.

    Lg
     
    Lawrence Glickman, Feb 15, 2006
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    Seth Guest

    I can't vouch for it, just sharing the link...
    http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/Main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=TOL10130
     
    Seth, Feb 15, 2006
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    SD Dave Guest

    Buy one of these.

    http://www.baproducts.com/sm831.htm

    If it happens to work, let me know.

    Dave
     
    SD Dave, Feb 15, 2006
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    SoCalMike Guest

    i bought one because that was the cheapest/easiest way to keep my 130psi
    road bike tires full.
     
    SoCalMike, Feb 15, 2006
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    Mark Hewitt Guest

    I have a 1 year old car complete with computers and electric fuel pumps and
    managed to bump start it no problem, it wasn't even a steep hill either, I
    got a friend to push me, and once I was going about 5mph I lifted the clutch
    and the engine started.
     
    Mark Hewitt, Feb 15, 2006
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    Sam Nickaby Guest

    Sorry if I'd misled anyone. These are genuine questions. The 92 Civic DX
    doesn't have a "lights on" chimer. We ran down the battery countless times.
    Many are from people who'd borrow our car. I believe on the third battery
    rundown incident the battery refuses to hold charge. It's a pretty small lead
    acid battery that you could get at Costco for $35 a pop. I wouldn't sell the
    little Civic for anything because the only thing that ever goes dead is the battery.

    The idea to charge the battery from spinning the alternator by hand has been
    bugging me for almost three years. I just didn't have the nerve to ask. :)

    I'm posting at the library, so time was limited. I compiled a list of questions
    (while half asleep) and post to relevant newsgroup and try to follow every
    newsgroup etiquette. Some of my post, regrettably, are poorly worded
    which appears trollish...:~) Thanks all for the practical varieties of
    solutions for the archive.

    Nickaby
     
    Sam Nickaby, Feb 15, 2006
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    Mike T. Guest

    Where do you get that rule of thumb? Time to recharge will depend a
    I've heard it and read it in several places. I have no reason to doubt it.
    The starter motor will drain the battery a lot faster than the alternator
    can charge it. That much is obvious, as re-charging the battery fast would
    destroy it. So common sense tells you that the car will have to be driven a
    ways for the battery to recover from even a single attempt at starting the
    car. I'm sure there are differences between cars, but supposedly, 8 miles
    is the average distance driven before the battery recovers from attempting
    to start the car once. -Dave
     
    Mike T., Feb 15, 2006
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    Al Bundy Guest

    Two more words for you Sam,
    BUS CARD
     
    Al Bundy, Feb 15, 2006
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    Guest Guest

    Having a manual transmission is a bit of a rarity nowadays. Of course, an
    automatic tranny would wipe out the possibility of a push start for most
    people. (IIRC, some of the older tranny designs allowed push starts, but
    I doubt the newer ones do.)

    If you have enough charge in the battery to activate the ignition system,
    and
    allow the fuel pump to operate and the ECM to control the key units, then
    a simple push start can work.

    But get the battery too low,and it isnt going to work.
     
    Guest, Feb 15, 2006
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    Mark Hewitt Guest

    Maybe where you live. But not here.
     
    Mark Hewitt, Feb 15, 2006
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    Don Bruder Guest

    And not for *THIS* driver...

    Gimme a good old-fashion stick any day of the week. I don't much care
    for being stranded by a tranny that decides it doesn't want to shift
    when it's supposed to, or tries to "out-think" me. When I put it in
    second, I want it in second until I decide to put it someplace else, and
    to hell with whatever the widget that passes for "intelligence" in the
    gearbox thinks is right.
     
    Don Bruder, Feb 15, 2006
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    E Meyer Guest

    True. There has to be at least some tiny bit of charge left in the battery
    or you are SOL.
     
    E Meyer, Feb 15, 2006
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    Larry Bud Guest

    You idea has many holes in it. If you were SOMEHOW able to give enough
    amps to turn the car over, the battery would die out if the car started
    because the alternator can't charge the dead battery because the
    alternator belt is off.

    Does the 92 civic have a single belt? If so, all of your other
    components won't turn either.
     
    Larry Bud, Feb 15, 2006
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