Negotiating

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Robert11, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. Robert11

    Robert11 Guest

    Hi,

    Always seems to leave a bad taste in my mouth when "negotiating" for a new
    car.
    Glad it isn't too often.
    Certainly not that good at it.

    Anyway, I will have a '97 LeSabre to trade in for a 2009 Accord.
    Want to do it all at once at a Dealer, even though I realize Iccould
    probably get a bit more privately.

    The Edmunds Wholesale value is about 2,000, and the Retail is shown as about
    3,000.

    Is it realistic to ask the Dealer for the 2,000 after the price of the new
    car has been agreed upon ? Or,...?

    Any hints appreciated.

    B.
     
    Robert11, Aug 5, 2008
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  2. Robert11

    Elle Guest

    www.kbb.com has trade-in values. I think they are fairly
    realistic, or at least more in the ballpark than Edmunds.

    When searching for a used car recently, I found kbb.com to
    be far more consistent than Edmunds with pricing.
     
    Elle, Aug 5, 2008
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  3. Robert11

    The Postman Guest

    Sure it is-- but be prepared for an offer of $1500-- with the sales weasel
    citing how hard a deal you drove on the price. Tell him you're unhappy-- and
    maybe he'll bump it up to $1575/$1600.

    Your only real leverage is to say that's a deal-breaker, put your checkbook
    back into your pocket, slowly and politely get up, thank the salesman for
    his time and consideration, and head for the door. If he doesn't run after
    you into the parking lot, give him a minute to scream to the sales manager--
    so delay starting your car. Fuss with something in the trunk or rear sear or
    whatever. He'll probably be out with an offer at or pretty near the $2000.
    If not, head down the road to the next dealer. Ask for the best salesman,
    tell him you're ready to write an order and won't waste anyone's time with
    tire kicking or stupid questions. One thing though, be sure to test drive
    the actual vehicle to make sure it's OK.

    BTW, what your doing is bargaining, not negotiating. Negotiating is for a
    deal within the context of on ongoing relationship-- e.g., between a
    manufacturing business and their steel and aluminum vendors-- or you and the
    guy who cuts your lawn all summer. Bargaining is a one-shot deal, say
    between a john and a hooker or a passenger and a cabbie for an "off the
    meter" ride.
     
    The Postman, Aug 5, 2008
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  4. Robert11

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    For a good cause I donate my old car to kidney foundation and get a tax
    receipt. I always deal with toal price in cash. Money talks. After
    careful research I go to a dealer, pick a car, offer a reasonable price
    and tell them take or leave it. Works all the time. I do this once every
    7 years or so per car but having 4 cars in the family it's too often.
    Saleman will ask you if you have a trade or not. Are you gonna say no
    and yes?
     
    Tony Hwang, Aug 5, 2008
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  5. "Elle" wrote
    To elaborate, I recall kbb allows you to indicate the condition of your
    car's various attributes. Those aspects help to drive a realistic value for
    your car.
     
    Howard Lester, Aug 6, 2008
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