Hi, Always seems to leave a bad taste in my mouth when "negotiating" for a new car. Glad it isn't too often. Certainly not that good at it. Anyway, I will have a '97 LeSabre to trade in for a 2009 Accord. Want to do it all at once at a Dealer, even though I realize Iccould probably get a bit more privately. The Edmunds Wholesale value is about 2,000, and the Retail is shown as about 3,000. Is it realistic to ask the Dealer for the 2,000 after the price of the new car has been agreed upon ? Or,...? Any hints appreciated. B.