New Accord wagons in North America, ever?

I love my Ohio built 95 Accord EX wagon. I've seen shots and specs of the
new Accord for JDM and Europe and wish they sold it here. What are the
chances of Honda ever selling wagons again in North America?

 

There are two different global platform variations for the current Accord -
see here <http://www.sae.org/automag/globalvehicles/04-2003/1-111-4-8b.pdf>
for some details mixed in with those for the Acura TSX - vs. three
different variations for the previous generation models. As you can see,
the wagon is a version of the Euro/Japan platform variation, so it would
seem that any Accord wagon would have to be imported, rather like the Acura
TSX is the Euro/Japan Accord Type S. I'd think the chances of that
happening are slim, especially since in N.A. the SUV rulez.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

fammacd=!SPAM^ (George Macdonald) wrote in

It does seem that companies with both minivans ans SUVs in their lineup are
loathe to offer wagons.

 

Does your image of "station wagons" include Crossover vehicles?

 

Does Honda sell any crossovers in north america?

Sorry, between SUV, SAV, Mini SUV, Crossover, etc, the differences seem a
little blurry to me, so I'm not sure, and I'm probably not the only one
confused by all the marketing terminology. IE is it a "crossover" or is
it a wagon that happens to have AWD and 2 inches more ground clearance with
chunkier tires?

But it would be interesting to see something like a AWD wagon like the
Honda Orthia (spelling?) here too.

 

Too bad, I'd love to see a Honda Sports Wagon.

 

Based on how well their previous attempts at selling a wagon
went, not very likely. The market is moving away from cars
to SUV's and crossovers funds on crossovers like Toyota and
the domestics are doing.


mike hunt

 

Isn't that what Toyota calls their Corolla wagon, the Matrix
sport wagon? ;0


mike hunt

 

Me too. Note that Mercedes and BMW both have wagons.

 

(Gordon McGrew) wrote in

Yeah, but they still don't get the really cool wagons that they get in
Europe, like the 330 wagon for example. I wonder if the new E60 5
series wagon will look any less ugly than the sedans.

I think a good part of why Subaru is doing so well is they continue to
sell wagons with a reasonable package for the price while no one else
does.

I'm speaking for myself here, but I think many people agree. I'm just
not ready for a mini-van (hope I never will be) nor do I want a big,
tall, gas guzzling SUV. Wagons are the best daily driver to me. At the
time I got my current one, the only wagons on the market in my price
range were Ford Taurus and Escort, Saturn, Subaru Legacy and Outback,
Toyota Camry and Corolla wagons, and the Accord wagon. The Toyota seemed
too much money for the Camry and even the Corolla was as almost as much
as the Accord for a lot less car. The domestics were exactly as I've
always found Domestics to be, poor fit and finish, trim falling off,
interiors and materials with the same cheap feel they've always had, etc.

Legacy Outback was very nice, and worth the coin, I thought, but just too
much for me. I ended up getting a dealer demo Accord for much less and
never regretted it, as it had the best reliability ratings for that model
year and that's what I was looking for most. In that respect it's
delivered, most reliable car I've ever had, if a little boring.

If they brought the Accord V6 wagon here I'd get one. The other wagon on
my wish list would be an Subaru STi wagon, but most people don't think it
will happen. There are rumors of a Legacy 2.5L turbo wagon though. I
wonder if they ever plan to put forced induction on their 3.0L 6 cyl?
That would be interesting.

As far as high-performance lux wagons go, they're pretty rare too. RS4
only found here in NA if it's been imported. New S4 Avant will be more
numerous but still, what a price tag. The price around the Accord V6 up
to the STi is more in my ballpark. Just sold my 2002 M3 and while I
loved it, and while I loved it, I don't see myself having the coin for
another one for some time to come. Who knows. Rumor is the next 3
series, E90, will come in an M4 wagon version.

 

One day, your situation will be such that you'll look at a minivan and
say, "Of course! Makes all the sense in the world."

When you have kids, nothing else will do. SUVs are stupid for families;
they're for families in denial.

 

Really!? Wow...

Still waiting...

 

Did you actually decipher that last sentence? What does it mean?

for MH to say something both true and non-obvious? You are a patient
person.

 

Are you blind? He simply stated the truth!
That market *is* moving to crossover funds on crossovers!

FFS.....

 

It's a matter of setting expectations I think. Nowadays, kids expect to
have PS/2 or Nintendo and all their favourite vids every time they go for a
ride in the car or they freak out. No wonder you need the space of a mini-
van.

But when I was a kid, the expectation was if I and my sister sat in the
back seat quietly, we wouldn't get smacked. I quickly chose sleeping in
the back seat to getting smacked.

Now days, my buddy and his family take the mini van and a trailer to go
camping. The kids bring everything, bikes, toys, etc. Somehow my family
went camping in a 76 corolla. Go figure.

Then take for example my other buddy. Just got a GMC 2500 4x4 quad cab
truck so he can take is family and 24ft trailer camping. His other vehicle
is an MDX. It seems to me that the Pilot would be a better choice for
interior space and layout though.

Seriously though, I think something like a Legacy Outback has lots of room
for a 4 person family. But I understand even if the vehicle has enough
space, it's still a lot easier to move kids and gear when you don't have to
bend over and crawl in, another plus for mini-vans. It's too bad more of
them don't have AWD (for those of us who get a lot of snow).

What I see happening in most families is that whoever has the kids becomes
the de-facto mini-van driver while the other parent gets the "other" car.
I expect I'll always be the one driving the "other" car *crosses fingers*.