New headlamp bulb tests

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Daniel Stern Lighting, Sep 24, 2003.

  1. Daniel Stern Lighting

    Diode Guest

    Daniel:

    I work for a company that makes Integrated Circuits. Full Custom as well as
    Standard Products. We've been talking lately about coming out with an LED
    driver chip for controlling LED intensity with PWM as a new Standard
    Product. This chip would be aimed at the automotive industry as a primary
    target. I'm not sure what the secondary and tertiary markets would be. At
    any rate, I'm having a difficult time finding any companies that manufacture
    a significant volume of LED lighting products. At least products that would
    require controlling the intensity or other parameters (such as flashing).
    Typical application would be tail / brake / turn signal lights.Would you
    have any contacts? Thanks.
     
    Diode, Sep 24, 2003
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  2. I'm surprised that Lucas has received the best rating despite its
    notorious reputation of shitty electrical components in the Seventies
    and possibly Eighties.

    A joke: Why do the English drink warm beers? Because their refrigerator
    is Lucas!

    Oliver
     
    Ennui Society, Sep 24, 2003
    #22
  3. Daniel Stern Lighting

    Matt B. Guest

    Not surprising though becuase the bulb is Osram-made. Lucas probably does
    better with packaging and branding than with manufacturing ;-)
     
    Matt B., Sep 24, 2003
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  4. I wouldn't bet on it. Best take the bulb out of the box before it
    (the box) falls apart or something.
     
    Matthew Russotto, Sep 24, 2003
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  5. Daniel Stern Lighting

    Ricardo Guest

    Right. And I have first hand experience of the performance of
    composite US headlamps, what with running 9004 crapola myself. But
    those with the generic buckets have relatively inexpensive access to
    excellent composite E code headlamps, and that was what I was really
    harking at. Maybe the statement lacked clarity. I certainly wouldn't
    hold up my stock 9004 "lights'" "performance" as a good example,
    even vis-à-vis sealed beams, although they are just about saved by
    the reasonably sized reflector/lens (some also make the same
    comments wrt the DoT junk on U.S. spec VW Jettas). I've seen other
    Mazdas with the same 9004 crap with an even smaller reflector/lens
    area and it's hard to imagine how bad that must be.
    Right, and that last point of standardization and upgradability is
    key. Those who have generic sockets can get e.g. Cibié or Bosch Euro
    lights, but still run $15 sealed beams. I can count on just about
    one hand the number of cars I've seen running the E code units. I
    have an excuse for sticking with the DoT junk; they don't. :}
    Right, and I was in no way attempting to counter that statement.
     
    Ricardo, Sep 24, 2003
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  6. Daniel Stern Lighting

    Ricardo Guest

    Coïncidence, isn't it? Anyway, the Hella headlamp is called the
    "Vision Minus", as we already know. :}
    Sneaky eh? I don't think it carried malevolent intentions though;
    the corporate types just lack a little originality.
     
    Ricardo, Sep 24, 2003
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  7. Yeah, but read the body text of the test: As it points out, Lucas doesn't
    make their own bulbs any more than Hella does. In a month or a year, the
    bulb in that Lucas box will more than likely be a completely different one
    than was tested.
    If Lucas made guns, wars wouldn't start.

    DS
     
    Daniel Stern Lighting, Sep 24, 2003
    #27
  8. Hello,

    Ricardo wrote:

    [snip]
    If you come to Boulder, Colorado, you'd bound to run out of fingers many
    times over when counting the numbers of American vehicles with ECE
    headlamp capsules, namely the trucks and SUVs such as Wranglers,
    Cherokees, Tacomas, etc.

    I've seen lot of late 1980s and early 1990s Audi 100s with Audi 200 ECE
    headlamps and Audi V8s with ECE equivalent here in Boulder. Some of them
    even have side turn signal repeaters fitted, too (The US-bound 100s and
    A6s didn't come with side turn signal repeaters until current-generation
    A6 appeared a few years ago).

    Same with Mercedes-Benz (W116, W123, W124, W126)...

    Oliver
     
    Ennui Society, Sep 24, 2003
    #28
  9. What's your website address?
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Sep 24, 2003
    #29
  10. Top posting is a lousy excuse for you not to bother editing your post.
    Stop it!
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Sep 24, 2003
    #30
  11. The rectangular four headlamp form factor, such as used in (most?)
    1981-1985 Volvos sold in the US. Urban use, 99% of the time on low
    beam when headlamps are turned on.
     
    Timothy J. Lee, Sep 24, 2003
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  12. Daniel Stern Lighting

    Ricardo Guest

    Ahh yes, 4x4s, trucks and SUVs for some reason are much more likely
    to be fitted with good lighting, and I have seen the odd one with
    Euro lights, including a Toyota Land Cruiser (iirc) with Carello
    lamps. I was taking a good peek at those! *smirk* But even then,
    most just stick with the DoT main lamps (sealed or otherwise) and
    mount auxiliary driving lights mid bumper, Hella being the most
    popular brand. My car has Hella 550s, which I got 'cos they're a
    relatively inexpensive if not earthshattering high beam upgrade.
    She's also equipped with a Hella rear fog lamp, essential in the
    "winter".
     
    Ricardo, Sep 24, 2003
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  13. Daniel Stern Lighting

    Ricardo Guest

    lighting.mbz.org unless something's dramatically changed of late.
     
    Ricardo, Sep 24, 2003
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  14. Daniel Stern Lighting

    Ricardo Guest

    Lol - I was too polite to say the very same. :}
     
    Ricardo, Sep 24, 2003
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  15. Daniel Stern Lighting

    Ricardo Guest

    But mommy, mommy, blue bulbz look "kewl"! :}
     
    Ricardo, Sep 24, 2003
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  16. Daniel Stern Lighting

    Nathan Nagel Guest

    I'd start with whoever's making those round LED lights for buses,
    trailers, etc. - I think they're made by whoever owns Signal-Stat these
    days, but I may be mistaken.

    nate
     
    Nathan Nagel, Sep 24, 2003
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  17. 165mm x 100mm.
    Can't really call any of the available sealed beams in this format
    particularly good on low beam...it's a small reflector, and corners and
    edges aren't useful reflecting surfaces. If you held a knife to my head
    and ordered me to pick one, I'd probably say to get the Wagner H4656BL
    "BriteLite" unit, which has a wider beam pattern than the standard unit
    and is a more honest effort than the GE or Sylvania "high performance"
    sealed beams in this format. Can get by pretty well with sealed beam high
    beams in this format if you don't rely too heavily on high beams. Or, you
    can install sealed beams that were kinda sorta not meant for headlamp
    service in the high beam buckets (H7935-1, spotlight unit, completely
    clear lens. 50W, 175,000 candela, 6.5° wide by 3.5° high conical beam.
    Works well *if* the high beam mode of your high/low headlamps is up to the
    task of providing sufficient width and fill to work with the very tight
    pencil beam of the H7935s...the clear lens also looks evil).

    If it were my car (and it was, until I put the '77-'80 quad-round buckets
    in my '85 245 Turbo so I could run these:
    http://lighting.mbz.org/products/csr.html , then later sold the car), I'd
    toss a set of Stanley 165mm x 100mm H4 units in the high/low buckets. One
    of the best available in this size format (Cibie kinda dropped the ball on
    their effort in this format, and Valeo wasn't smart enough to keep the
    Marchal and axe the Cibie unit, so they did the opposite; Hella's is kinda
    weak, Bosch's is rather good), and they're cheap until I'm out of 'em,
    then they're sadly NLA.

    Another place to pick up a considerable amount of headlamp performance in
    an '80s Volvo is to beef up the headlamp wiring. See
    http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/relays/relays.html . This'll improve things
    regardless of what headlamps you run, even K-mart sealed beams.

    Of course, the best option is to do both the wiring and the better lamps.

    Remember, the socket will fit on an H4 just like it fit on your H4656
    high/low beam small rectangular sealed beam, but the polarity is NOT the
    same and it won't work right! Adaptation is required.

    DS
    To write to me, remove the headlamp from my return address
     
    Daniel Stern Lighting, Sep 24, 2003
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  18. Well, c'mon! Walk into a Canadian Tire and go down the lighting aisle.
    You'll see Bosch 7" and 200mm x 142mm H4 conversion lamps, but they're in
    a rather plain box. Walk another five feet, and you'll see the CoolBlue
    and SilverStar sealed beams in eye-catching, brightly-festooned,
    heavily-hyped packaging. Walk another three feet, and you'll see the rice
    lights with similar hype. Most people just don't *know*, and that goes
    double for most parts store dweebs.

    DS
     
    Daniel Stern Lighting, Sep 24, 2003
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  19. That Audi V8 ECE lamp is *EXPENSIVE*. It's about a $450 or $500 chunk of
    glass and metal.
    But the V8 had them right from the start.

    DS
     
    Daniel Stern Lighting, Sep 24, 2003
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  20. Truck-Lite, Peterson, Signal-Stat, Dialight, and more...
     
    Daniel Stern Lighting, Sep 24, 2003
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