New Honda being delivered Wednesday

I think you're going to be just fine. Honda's still a good company, and
their cars are still well-made. However, considerable compromises have been
made to the interior and to other non-essential parts in order to allow the
re-allocation of funds necessary for all the airbags and other government-
mandated equipment. This results in a cheaper feel than what used to be.

Me, I'm on the verge of finally replacing the '91 Integra, which now has
over 356,000 miles and is going to need at least an engine/tranny rebuild
in the next year or two. Unfortunately, Honda does not have what I need, so
my next car will not be a Honda.

Why can't Honda make a Civic wagon, on the order of the Mazda 3 Sport?
/That/ I would buy. The Fit is too small for my needs.

I'll likely be buying something by next Christmas, if not before. The wife
and I have been discussing options, since we'd like something larger for
travelling.

 

I think you're going to be just fine. Honda's still a good company, and
their cars are still well-made. However, considerable compromises have been
made to the interior and to other non-essential parts in order to allow the
re-allocation of funds necessary for all the airbags and other government-
mandated equipment. This results in a cheaper feel than what used to be.

Me, I'm on the verge of finally replacing the '91 Integra, which now has
over 356,000 miles and is going to need at least an engine/tranny rebuild
in the next year or two. Unfortunately, Honda does not have what I need, so
my next car will not be a Honda.

Why can't Honda make a Civic wagon, on the order of the Mazda 3 Sport?
/That/ I would buy. The Fit is too small for my needs.

I'll likely be buying something by next Christmas, if not before. The wife
and I have been discussing options, since we'd like something larger for
travelling.

 

With known problem it's best to trade it in and let the dealer take care
of any future problems with it.

 

With known problem it's best to trade it in and let the dealer take care
of any future problems with it.

 

"Lynn McGuire" wrote

Same opinion here, same replacements (plus rear brakes at about 30,000):
2004 Accord EX sedan i4 auto, 62K, very comfortable. Knock on Formica, it'll
be repair-free for another 62K. I've only owned Hondas since 1982, and will
be open to other brands when the time comes for a new one.

 

"Lynn McGuire" wrote

Same opinion here, same replacements (plus rear brakes at about 30,000):
2004 Accord EX sedan i4 auto, 62K, very comfortable. Knock on Formica, it'll
be repair-free for another 62K. I've only owned Hondas since 1982, and will
be open to other brands when the time comes for a new one.

 

That's assuming the dealer provides something for the trade vs.buying
outright, without a trade.

More realistically, dealers typically take older cars off their customer's
hands in lieu of a discount.

My son once attempted to trade a car where the dealer offered him an extra
$100 off the car without the trade.

 

That's assuming the dealer provides something for the trade vs.buying
outright, without a trade.

More realistically, dealers typically take older cars off their customer's
hands in lieu of a discount.

My son once attempted to trade a car where the dealer offered him an extra
$100 off the car without the trade.

 

It's called an Odysssey. http://automobiles.honda.com/odyssey/
But I prefer my Ford Expedition for traveling as it is a true
land yacht.

Lynn

 

It's called an Odysssey. http://automobiles.honda.com/odyssey/
But I prefer my Ford Expedition for traveling as it is a true
land yacht.

Lynn

 

2007 Odyssey is our other Honda. My wife picked that because of A) how
reliable my Accord had been the prior 6 years and B) of the 3 vehicles we
had narrowed our choices down to it was the only one that had leather and
would seat 8. The Sienna for example maxed out at 7 in leather. The R350
was only 6 seats.

 

2007 Odyssey is our other Honda. My wife picked that because of A) how
reliable my Accord had been the prior 6 years and B) of the 3 vehicles we
had narrowed our choices down to it was the only one that had leather and
would seat 8. The Sienna for example maxed out at 7 in leather. The R350
was only 6 seats.

 

Too costly; we're too cheap for that.

Plus neither of us like the "soccer mom" stigma that comes with minivans.

 

Too costly; we're too cheap for that.

Plus neither of us like the "soccer mom" stigma that comes with minivans.

 

Ironically, I drive an '82 Civic automatic everyday...

JT

 

Ironically, I drive an '82 Civic automatic everyday...

JT

 

That's true. If a car is in good working order, I would always try to
sell it myself and buy a new car without trading in the old one. There
is no way to know what an angry buyer of my old car could do when he
discovers I sold him a car with known hidden problem. So that's when I
would rather trade it in.

 

That's true. If a car is in good working order, I would always try to
sell it myself and buy a new car without trading in the old one. There
is no way to know what an angry buyer of my old car could do when he
discovers I sold him a car with known hidden problem. So that's when I
would rather trade it in.

 

It's gone LONG past non-essential parts. They're beyond cutting TO the
bone, and are amputating entire limbs.

Honda is scared to death of Hyundai, and is busy *re*acting to that
perceived threat. Their reaction is based on panic, not calculation.
Honda has proven that they're chasing the Hyundai buyer who, for $5
less, would jump over and buy the Hyundai.

Bad move.

Unfortunately, this started back far enough (with the 98 and up
transmisions) and has gone on long enough that they probably can't
reverse the downhill trend.

One day, their reputation capital will be spent, and they'll be
completely stuck.

 

It's gone LONG past non-essential parts. They're beyond cutting TO the
bone, and are amputating entire limbs.

Honda is scared to death of Hyundai, and is busy *re*acting to that
perceived threat. Their reaction is based on panic, not calculation.
Honda has proven that they're chasing the Hyundai buyer who, for $5
less, would jump over and buy the Hyundai.

Bad move.

Unfortunately, this started back far enough (with the 98 and up
transmisions) and has gone on long enough that they probably can't
reverse the downhill trend.

One day, their reputation capital will be spent, and they'll be
completely stuck.