New Honda being delivered Wednesday

that might be true, but it doesn't explain why toyota don't seem to be
afflicted in the same way.

 

that might be true, but it doesn't explain why toyota don't seem to be
afflicted in the same way.

 

Ain't that the truth. I have more fun driving the hilly winding back
roads in my ancient Civic(s) without worrying about the cops behind the
bill boards on the main roads.

JT

 

Ain't that the truth. I have more fun driving the hilly winding back
roads in my ancient Civic(s) without worrying about the cops behind the
bill boards on the main roads.

JT

 

And yet, the rest of the car manufacturers don't do it to the extreme
Honda does.
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I've been in other cars with a similar inconvenience, I just can't remember
exactly which ones right now.

Some cars have "active" headrests, that snap forwards into that position on
impact. I guess Honda must be trying to save cash.

 

And yet, the rest of the car manufacturers don't do it to the extreme
Honda does.
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I've been in other cars with a similar inconvenience, I just can't remember
exactly which ones right now.

Some cars have "active" headrests, that snap forwards into that position on
impact. I guess Honda must be trying to save cash.

 

My Canadian province (Ontario) is an exception to the general rule that
sellng the old car yourself saves you money.

Up here, selling the old car yourself is a very expensive, since the
government rigged tax calculations to favor dealer trade-ins against
private sales. That's why private sales have almost totally dried up, with
a few exceptions.

 

My Canadian province (Ontario) is an exception to the general rule that
sellng the old car yourself saves you money.

Up here, selling the old car yourself is a very expensive, since the
government rigged tax calculations to favor dealer trade-ins against
private sales. That's why private sales have almost totally dried up, with
a few exceptions.

 

Hmmmm. Well, down here the deal is that tax is collected against the
net transaction--that is, if the car you're buying is $20,000 and the
dealer shows a $10,000 trade in, sales tax is collected on the $10,000
difference.

Therefore, you need to sell your car for more than $10,700 (7% tax rate)
in order to make a private sale be better than a trade-in. It's a very
simple evaluation. Then there's the hassle factor of a private sale,
the value of which is unique to every individual. That'll add to what a
private sale price would be. But there's still a very wide gap between
a private sale price and what the dealer will ask for it once he's put
it on the lot, so private sales are still a good deal.

Is that kind of "rigged tax calculation" you're talking about?

It hasn't stopped or even slowed private transactions down here, not one
bit.

 

Hmmmm. Well, down here the deal is that tax is collected against the
net transaction--that is, if the car you're buying is $20,000 and the
dealer shows a $10,000 trade in, sales tax is collected on the $10,000
difference.

Therefore, you need to sell your car for more than $10,700 (7% tax rate)
in order to make a private sale be better than a trade-in. It's a very
simple evaluation. Then there's the hassle factor of a private sale,
the value of which is unique to every individual. That'll add to what a
private sale price would be. But there's still a very wide gap between
a private sale price and what the dealer will ask for it once he's put
it on the lot, so private sales are still a good deal.

Is that kind of "rigged tax calculation" you're talking about?

It hasn't stopped or even slowed private transactions down here, not one
bit.

 

Stopped them /dead/ here. Which was just what the dealers were hoping for
when they asked for that change.

 

Stopped them /dead/ here. Which was just what the dealers were hoping for
when they asked for that change.

 

Our tax is 13%, by the way.

 

Our tax is 13%, by the way.

 

I think they do that to save money: they get the "safety" of active
headrests without the expense of same, but annoy everybody in the process.

My next car (to be purchased within the next year) will not be a Honda.

 

I think they do that to save money: they get the "safety" of active
headrests without the expense of same, but annoy everybody in the process.

My next car (to be purchased within the next year) will not be a Honda.

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in message

That's sad to hear. But really, what else is the alternative in that
class
(both price and what you get for it)? Our 2007 Odyssey has been holding up
well. Over 60k on that already.[/QUOTE]

Believe it or not, Hyundai (I think) if you're talking that level of
market. Certainly Nissan.

If you're dead-set on a Honda, buy Acura--they still seem to care at
that level (also see Infiniti). But Honda has turned into a big bag of
shit over the last ten years, and what they're turning out today is
pitiful.

Yes, I have some inside information on that.

I must say that the current offerings by Honda don't do much for me --
Crosstour for example & the Accord coupe is quite ugly. I currently drive
an 06 I4 Accord coupe and have had very good service out of it. If I were to
replace it I suppose Hyundai or Nissan (altima) would be the alternatives.

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in message

That's sad to hear. But really, what else is the alternative in that
class
(both price and what you get for it)? Our 2007 Odyssey has been holding up
well. Over 60k on that already.[/QUOTE]

Believe it or not, Hyundai (I think) if you're talking that level of
market. Certainly Nissan.

If you're dead-set on a Honda, buy Acura--they still seem to care at
that level (also see Infiniti). But Honda has turned into a big bag of
shit over the last ten years, and what they're turning out today is
pitiful.

Yes, I have some inside information on that.

I must say that the current offerings by Honda don't do much for me --
Crosstour for example & the Accord coupe is quite ugly. I currently drive
an 06 I4 Accord coupe and have had very good service out of it. If I were to
replace it I suppose Hyundai or Nissan (altima) would be the alternatives.

 

My 1996 Honda Civic CX Hatchback is sitting outside in the
apartment's parking lot. It has three hundred thousand miles on it.

Aside from having to put a quart of oil in it every time I
fill up, it is running just fine. I keep it around as a 'chores and
errands' car.

I just purchased a 2010 Honda Fit sports model. I expect it
to do that well, too.

I've had two Chevy's (one used, one new) and two Ford
Mustangs. American cars and dealers have caused me a lot of pain.

I'm on my third Honda and I'm always been very pleased.

I've come to the conclusion that you can't go wrong with
Honda.



Fred

 

My 1996 Honda Civic CX Hatchback is sitting outside in the
apartment's parking lot. It has three hundred thousand miles on it.

Aside from having to put a quart of oil in it every time I
fill up, it is running just fine. I keep it around as a 'chores and
errands' car.

I just purchased a 2010 Honda Fit sports model. I expect it
to do that well, too.

I've had two Chevy's (one used, one new) and two Ford
Mustangs. American cars and dealers have caused me a lot of pain.

I'm on my third Honda and I'm always been very pleased.

I've come to the conclusion that you can't go wrong with
Honda.



Fred