Ain't that the truth. My own dealer got three years out of the original oil pan. Then they managed to strip the plug. The monkeys were severely overtightening the plug, probably by using a combo wrench and tightening it by hanging from it, as monkeys do.[/QUOTE] The dealership I use has many people there, but they come and go. The guy I use has been there for a long, long time--and I sit and watch him work, and we chat. This same dealership has plenty of idiots in the shop, and one out-and-out crook that they allow to get away with murder. Despite my utter distaste that they let him stay there, the service manager and I have a cordial relationship. If the guy I use were to go anywhere else, I'd follow him--without doubt. People buy from people, not companies. It's not about the dealership. It's about the people in it.
I guess you haven't bought a new vehicle lately. If you did, you might have more important things on your mind at the time of purchase then the maintenance minder. Besides it's in the manual to read, right? Then no big deal as I see it.[/QUOTE] At the time of purchase, sure. When I get home? I read the owner's manual. I even mark pages. Because I just spent TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND FRIGGIN' DOLLARS. Maybe that's chicken-shit money to you, but to me it's a bunch.
I guess you haven't bought a new vehicle lately. If you did, you might have more important things on your mind at the time of purchase then the maintenance minder. Besides it's in the manual to read, right? Then no big deal as I see it.[/QUOTE] At the time of purchase, sure. When I get home? I read the owner's manual. I even mark pages. Because I just spent TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND FRIGGIN' DOLLARS. Maybe that's chicken-shit money to you, but to me it's a bunch.
hehehehe--reminds me of my 79 Civic. The oil system had a nifty self-changing feature. When the oil light flickered during hard right turns, it was time to add more oil.
hehehehe--reminds me of my 79 Civic. The oil system had a nifty self-changing feature. When the oil light flickered during hard right turns, it was time to add more oil.
The faithfully torqued (with a torque wrench, to spec, every time, without exception, since the car was new) drain plug in my '91 Accord stripped about a year and a half ago. Pretty annoying...and very unusual. But that's why they make self-tapping replacements, I suppose. (Note: I recently got a new torque wrench and checked it against the old one. They're within a foot-pound of each other.)
The faithfully torqued (with a torque wrench, to spec, every time, without exception, since the car was new) drain plug in my '91 Accord stripped about a year and a half ago. Pretty annoying...and very unusual. But that's why they make self-tapping replacements, I suppose. (Note: I recently got a new torque wrench and checked it against the old one. They're within a foot-pound of each other.)
[much to the delight of "crv guy" no doubt] i actually disregard factory oil pan plug torque. 45N.m is very high for something with a soft aluminum crush washer under it. i use ~30N.m and have never had a thread strip, nor a plug loosen or leak. replicate at your own risk.
[much to the delight of "crv guy" no doubt] i actually disregard factory oil pan plug torque. 45N.m is very high for something with a soft aluminum crush washer under it. i use ~30N.m and have never had a thread strip, nor a plug loosen or leak. replicate at your own risk.
Jim, I give up on trying to explain further. I tried. Honestly I smiled at some of your reply here. When you say some of this stuff, please look in the mirror before you hit the enter key.
Jim, I give up on trying to explain further. I tried. Honestly I smiled at some of your reply here. When you say some of this stuff, please look in the mirror before you hit the enter key.
