"New" Honda OEM Oil Filters (?)

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Scott Wallace, CISSP, May 4, 2004.

  1. OK, I'll apologize in advance if this thread has already passed through....

    Has anybody else had any experiences with the "new" OEM oil filters from
    Honda (yes, the DEALER)? By this I mean, Honda recently standardized some
    of their filters so MANY cars now use a SINGLE replacement filter.

    I have a '98 V6 Accord and I bought a filter a week ago...how else can I say
    this...IT'S TINY! It is smaller, in BOTH outside diameter and length, than
    the previous OEM filter.

    I put the filter on this past weekend and I noticed that it does indeed
    match-up with all the required parts....BUT...but the smaller outside
    diameter of the filter case means that you end up with a small bit of
    exposed backing plate that was previously covered by the filter and runner O
    ring...

    I called my local dealer and talked to the parts dude...I confirmed (twice)
    the part number for the car...it is the correct filter (and NO they don't
    have any of the old ones).

    I also asked three other questions;

    1) Has the filter life changed as it has a smaller capacity (presumed based
    on size than anything else)? ANSWER: No...same life. He knowns nothing of
    any changes to the recommended life interval based on the recently changed
    filter.

    2) Has the oil capacity of the car changed (again, due to the smaller
    capacity of the newer filter)? ANSWER: YES...how much he does not know. He
    indicated just watch the last .1 - .2 quart you add...top it off after
    running the engine rather than trying to get it right the first time.

    3) Has the oil pressure in the manifold changed? ANSWER: dunno...good
    question though.

    OK, my questions to this august body are;

    1) Does anybody have any experience with this newer filter...hopefully
    somebody with an oil pressure guage?

    2) Am I just paraniod here? I am a true believer in synth oils (I use
    either AMSOIL...when I can find a good distributer or Mobil 1...my standard)
    so I'm used to having slightly extended change intervals. What with this
    tiny filter I wonder if this interval will be an expensive one....?

    Looks like I'll stock on K&N oil filters (they're the "normal" size AND they
    have a 1" socket attachment welded to the top of the can for EASY
    installation & removal...too bad the local auto parts stores don't always
    stock them...AND they're expensive.

    Thanks

    Scott Wallace
     
    Scott Wallace, CISSP, May 4, 2004
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  2. Scott Wallace, CISSP

    John Horner Guest

    Honda recently economized by standardizing on a tiny lawn tractor sized
    filter which appears to be made now by Honeywell/Fram in Canada.

    There are IMO many better choices available on the aftermarket.

    Wix, Hastings and Purolator make well respected mid priced filters in the
    old size. These are also used on some non-Honda applications, so hopefully
    they will be available for a long time.

    John
     
    John Horner, May 5, 2004
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    N.E.Ohio Bob Guest

    Anyone out there know if the filter actually removes anything? Has
    anyone cut one apart and had a look? bob
     
    N.E.Ohio Bob, May 5, 2004
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    bkapaun Guest

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    bkapaun, May 5, 2004
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    Jon Guest

    Yes is does , only you need a microscope to see it...
    Also, if its not dirty then the oil wont have any dirt in it, most unlikely.
     
    Jon, May 9, 2004
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