New tires on 98 Accord LX - Do I need an alignment?

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Tom Jackson, Feb 20, 2006.

  1. Tom Jackson

    Tom Jackson Guest

    I bought 4 new BF Goodrich tires for my 98 Accord LX 5-speed with
    75,000 miles. The cars is very quiet now and very smooth. The guys at
    Costco told me to get an alignment and they implied it would protect my
    tire warranty. They said get an alignment every year. I think I have
    had one alignment since new.

    I am wondering if I really need one. There is zero vibration or shimmy
    in the steering wheel.

    If I take my hands off the wheel, (hold them an inch away from the
    wheel & when no cars are around) the cars drives totally straight and
    the wheel do not vibrate or anything.

    The tires have a 60,000 mile warranty, 500 rating and Costco provides
    free rotation, road hazard the works.
     
    Tom Jackson, Feb 20, 2006
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  2. Tom Jackson

    jim beam Guest

    what was the wear pattern on the old tires?
     
    jim beam, Feb 20, 2006
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  3. Tom Jackson

    jim beam Guest

    what was the wear pattern on the old tires?
     
    jim beam, Feb 20, 2006
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  4. Tom Jackson

    SoCalMike Guest

    did they notice abnormal wear on the old tires to the inboard or
    outboard sides? they dont do alignments, so thats the only reason i can
    think of that theyd tell you something like that.
    dont need one, unless you notice uneven wear, or pulling to one side.
    costco will warrant the tires regardless of if you align the car or not.
     
    SoCalMike, Feb 20, 2006
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  5. Tom Jackson

    SoCalMike Guest

    did they notice abnormal wear on the old tires to the inboard or
    outboard sides? they dont do alignments, so thats the only reason i can
    think of that theyd tell you something like that.
    dont need one, unless you notice uneven wear, or pulling to one side.
    costco will warrant the tires regardless of if you align the car or not.
     
    SoCalMike, Feb 20, 2006
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  6. Tom Jackson

    Eric Guest

    Some shops have a computerized slide slip meter that they can drive the car
    over which senses how many feet per mile the tires are pulling sideways.
    This test will help to determine if you really need an alignment. Call
    around to a few different shops in your area. One shop that I know of will
    do the test for free since it only takes a minute or two.

    By the way, an alignment per year sounds excessive. The best thing you can
    do for your tires is to keep them properly inflated to the car's recommended
    pressure. Also check for unusual wear patterns and get them rotated front
    to back regularly. I do mine at every other oil change. I also bought
    tires at Costco, but I won't let them rotate the tires any more since they
    messed up one of my lugnuts (just about the only way to mess up the threads
    on a lugnut is to start the threads with the nut in your air tool instead of
    by hand and people making this type of mistake are usually found in a high
    school shop class or they belong there).

    Eric
     
    Eric, Feb 20, 2006
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  7. Tom Jackson

    Eric Guest

    Some shops have a computerized slide slip meter that they can drive the car
    over which senses how many feet per mile the tires are pulling sideways.
    This test will help to determine if you really need an alignment. Call
    around to a few different shops in your area. One shop that I know of will
    do the test for free since it only takes a minute or two.

    By the way, an alignment per year sounds excessive. The best thing you can
    do for your tires is to keep them properly inflated to the car's recommended
    pressure. Also check for unusual wear patterns and get them rotated front
    to back regularly. I do mine at every other oil change. I also bought
    tires at Costco, but I won't let them rotate the tires any more since they
    messed up one of my lugnuts (just about the only way to mess up the threads
    on a lugnut is to start the threads with the nut in your air tool instead of
    by hand and people making this type of mistake are usually found in a high
    school shop class or they belong there).

    Eric
     
    Eric, Feb 20, 2006
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  8. The shadetree trick to check whether you need alignment to prevent tire
    wear: stick strips of masking tape across the treads of the front tires from
    sidewall to sidewall and find a reasonably straight stretch of road to drive
    for a mile or so. Pull over and look at the tape. If it is worn evenly on
    the inside and outside edges, roughly matching the wear in the center, you
    are wearing okay. If the inside or outside edges are more worn you need an
    alignment.

    If you haven't had anything replaced in the front end and the steering wheel
    sits straight when you drive the alignment is probably okay. It's rare for
    the alignment to be "knocked out" by a big bump without affecting one side
    more than the other and so making the steering off-center.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 20, 2006
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  9. The shadetree trick to check whether you need alignment to prevent tire
    wear: stick strips of masking tape across the treads of the front tires from
    sidewall to sidewall and find a reasonably straight stretch of road to drive
    for a mile or so. Pull over and look at the tape. If it is worn evenly on
    the inside and outside edges, roughly matching the wear in the center, you
    are wearing okay. If the inside or outside edges are more worn you need an
    alignment.

    If you haven't had anything replaced in the front end and the steering wheel
    sits straight when you drive the alignment is probably okay. It's rare for
    the alignment to be "knocked out" by a big bump without affecting one side
    more than the other and so making the steering off-center.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 20, 2006
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  10. Tom Jackson

    Guest Guest

    I paid about $45 for a four wheel alignment at a Firestone dealer after
    popping for a set of Bridgestones. The alignment was way off om my 2001
    Accord V6-EX with about 45K. Spring for the alignment.
     
    Guest, Feb 20, 2006
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  11. Tom Jackson

    Guest Guest

    I paid about $45 for a four wheel alignment at a Firestone dealer after
    popping for a set of Bridgestones. The alignment was way off om my 2001
    Accord V6-EX with about 45K. Spring for the alignment.
     
    Guest, Feb 20, 2006
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  12. Tom Jackson

    Tom Jackson Guest

    The wear [attern looked pretty normal. No excessive wear on either
    side (inboard or outboard) of the front or rear tires.

    BTW - is anyone here able to get more than 25,000 miles on a set of
    tires? I did once on a new 1984 VW Scirocco with excellent (French)
    Uniroyal HRs.

    Thanks guys.
     
    Tom Jackson, Feb 20, 2006
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  13. Tom Jackson

    Tom Jackson Guest

    The wear [attern looked pretty normal. No excessive wear on either
    side (inboard or outboard) of the front or rear tires.

    BTW - is anyone here able to get more than 25,000 miles on a set of
    tires? I did once on a new 1984 VW Scirocco with excellent (French)
    Uniroyal HRs.

    Thanks guys.
     
    Tom Jackson, Feb 20, 2006
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    butch burton Guest

    Have 194K on a 97 accord - no alignment since purchase - tire wear is
    even - so if your tire wear is even - you don't need one. Also check
    tirerack.com for recommendations on tire brands - BF Goodrich is not a
    stellar choice IMHO.
     
    butch burton, Feb 20, 2006
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  15. Tom Jackson

    butch burton Guest

    Have 194K on a 97 accord - no alignment since purchase - tire wear is
    even - so if your tire wear is even - you don't need one. Also check
    tirerack.com for recommendations on tire brands - BF Goodrich is not a
    stellar choice IMHO.
     
    butch burton, Feb 20, 2006
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  16. sounds odd to me. Costco doesn't do alignments, so it's not like they are
    trying to sell you an unecessary service to make more money. Did they refer
    you to specific shop? Maybe they are getting a kick back? Unless you are
    getting abnormal wear of your tires or the car is pulling to one side, you
    don't need to get an alignment.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Feb 20, 2006
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  17. sounds odd to me. Costco doesn't do alignments, so it's not like they are
    trying to sell you an unecessary service to make more money. Did they refer
    you to specific shop? Maybe they are getting a kick back? Unless you are
    getting abnormal wear of your tires or the car is pulling to one side, you
    don't need to get an alignment.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Feb 20, 2006
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  18. Tom Jackson

    Tom Jackson Guest

    They did not refer me to any specific shop. There are no auto repair
    shops near this Costco location. There is no vibration in the steering
    wheel at all, car drives stratight as an arrow and the wear on the old
    tires looked normal.
     
    Tom Jackson, Feb 20, 2006
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  19. Tom Jackson

    Tom Jackson Guest

    They did not refer me to any specific shop. There are no auto repair
    shops near this Costco location. There is no vibration in the steering
    wheel at all, car drives stratight as an arrow and the wear on the old
    tires looked normal.
     
    Tom Jackson, Feb 20, 2006
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  20. Tom Jackson

    Stephen H Guest

    As much as I hate to admit it Costco is right. An alignment is to tell you
    and the tire seller that your car is within specs and should not wear the
    tires prematurely. If in 15000 miles you notice the tires have wear on the
    inside edge and are now considered unsafe, then the seller may say too bad.
    OTOH, if you can prove your car didn't wear out the tires, then your
    challenging the tire manufactures mileage warranty.

    Firestone offers a lifetime alignment, and using this I have seen several
    customers get new tires at 20000 miles because the tires were suppose to
    last 40000 AND because they were in every 6 month or so keeping up on the
    alignment the ball was in there court (so to say)

    For about 20$ Firestone offers a alignment check.


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    Stephen W. Hansen
    ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
    ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
    ASE Undercar Specialist

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    http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
     
    Stephen H, Feb 21, 2006
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