Nissan Plans Wireless Charging on Electric Cars

Nissan Plans Wireless Charging on Electric Cars
http://www.techespot.com/2009/08/electric-cars-wireless-recharging-for.html

 

TecheSpot needs to hire a team of proof readers.

 

We gain very little with electric cars if recharged with coal burning
electricity. Carbon footprint savings are minimal, and the costs to
recharge are not much better then gas. High mileage hybrids are
probably a better way to go until the point comes where there is very
little coal burning power generation.

 

Better translators is what you mean I think. I once had a manual for a
'Steyr Daimler Puch' moped that had a section on "lubrifying the vehicle".

 

Does saying things that aren't true make you feel Authoritative?

 

Read the post from Isaiah in response to Leftie, it is just one
example of an analysis. If you have some better numbers, it would be
much more authoritative to use them instead of using ad hominem
attacks.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.honda/browse_thread/thread/bc78df0cc6ae61a1/d342809e58c284fe?q=group:alt.autos.honda+author:Isaiah

 

Hmm, now I see, "Leftie" has already had the opportunity to respond to
the post in the above link, yet he never has.

 

The push to electric cars is not necessarily to save the world it's to
loosen our dependence on mid east oil nations.

 

One of the mantras has been carbon footprint, which may or may not be
a minimal savings, depending on power generation method used. There
is no free lunch, either petroleum or electric, the power comes from
somewhere, and something has to be burned to get it.

 

one also has to remember that our electric utilities are close to full
capacity already.A large change to plug-in electrics would mean brownouts
or rolling blackouts,and Obama doesn't want new coal plants,plans to make
coal use too expensive thru Cap n Trade,is blocking new nuclear power thru
defunding Yucca Mountain waste repository,and alternative sources are not
capable of making up the difference.

(besides halting domestic drilling for oil and gas....)

 

Economy of scale always reduces inefficiencies. BUT burning coal is
worse than burning oil which is worse than burning gas. I have no
idea where a coal fire steam turbine fits into the mix with a 4 cyl
110 bhp IC gasoline engine.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
I'm sure we can give them some. Or the Navy."

- former B52 wing commander

 

The EVs make minimal difference BECAUSE of what you state; The
electricity comes from Coal plants (mostly), and therefore generates a
large carbon footprint. Much higher, AAMOF, than a Hybrid. It has
little to do with money, and that was the point of the post you
answered in THIS thread.

 

I don't read this group every day if I don't need help from it. If
you look at the thread you quoted, I was involved in it. Still, if you
really value my opinion that much: carbon emissions are just one aspect
of power generation, and while coal is the highest in that respect
(except, maybe, for burning garbage) it is also the worst in sulfur
emissions. To dismiss EVs as not making much of an environmental
difference because, in one carefully chosen comparison in a state with
high electricity rates, they only save a little money over gas vehicles
(unless of course you factor in IC vehicle maintenance costs!) is a
tactic worthy of the kind of offhand dismissal I gave it. You give
simplistic comparisons, I'll give simple detractions.

 

actually,adding the extra load from a lot of plug-in EVs,you either get an
INCREASE in carbon,as coal-fired plants are the quickest,easiest,cheapest
way to add (needed)generating capacity,or you get brownouts and
blackouts,because our present generating capacity is near maximum.
Some places in the US already experience brownouts and rolling blackouts.

solar and wind cannot provided the needed generation capacity,Obama is
blocking nuclear power,and blocking new domestic oil and gas drilling and
production.

also,environuts are blocking new power transmission lines.

 

I wasn't clear enough. You have to look at all of the impacts for
each source being compared, not just one. IC vehicles generate VOC
emissions, used oil, etc. Coal plants generate more than just CO2.
Someone posting about high electric rates in one state and one pollutant
isn't going to present an accurate picture.

 

look up "off-peak charging." Most commuter vehicles can be charged
when demand is lower.

That's your opinion, not fact.

The only transmission line being blocked on environmental grounds
(your use of the term 'environuts' BTW, is very handy for spotting the
kind of Kooks who deny global warming) that I know of is one where the
utility keeps *saying* it wants to use the line for alternative energy,
but won't put it in writing. They also want to build it near Mexico's
dirty coal plants.

 

If coal power generation is worst in sulfur emissions, then it is even
less advantageous to use an all electric vehicle. If you actually
read the information, I stated that in states with high electric
rates, the cost savings are minimal at best. Obviously, if oil goes
up as well as in states where electric rates are much less, there is
an immediate cost benefit.

Of course, you give no data, just a flippant and subjective response
which is much worse then even a "simplistic" comparison.

 

Also one has to consider the amount of energy it takes to manufacture
new vehicles. We may be better off to have well maintained
"clunkers".

 

it all boils down to the fact that nuclear power is the cleanest and most
practical source of new electric power generation we have available RIGHT
NOW.
It's clean,and capable of providing LARGE amounts of electricity 24/7/365.
It doesn't "need time to be developed" either.
(and it provides good jobs for US workers.)

All it needs is the Administration to approve construction and stop
blocking Yucca Mountain Waste Repository.(safe storage of wastes)


We can(and should)develop waste reprocessing at our leisure,as long as we
have secure,safe storage.

This would also give us a chance to phase out coal-fired plants,and use our
coal stocks for conversion to power autos and jets,reducing our dependence
on foreign oil/gas sources.(along with domestic oil/gas drilling)
And THAT would put a crimp in the terrorists finances and increase OUR
security.