No Oil on Dipstick prior to 3,000 mile mark

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  1. I got my oil changed this weekend and for the second time in a row, there was
    no oil on the dipstick. The car has always gone for it's usual oil change
    every 3,000 miles, so I'm not sure why there's no oil. There is no
    noticeable leakage anywhere. It was suggested that I get an engine flush.
    Before spending money on that, are there any explanations to the oil issue?
    Thanks.
     
    MP via CarKB.com, Jun 13, 2005
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    motsco_ _ Guest


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    Your pcv is probably stuck open, sucking all the vapor out of the
    crankcase. Your owner's manual will tell you how often you should have
    beenchecking the oil. When asking for help, it's important to mention
    the year, make, model, and mileage of the vehicle.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jun 13, 2005
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    Woody Guest

    You should be checking the oil every time you put gas in it and adding oil
    as needed. Letting it go that low will blow the engine if it hasn't already.
    Take it to a qualified mechanic as someone recommending expensive flushes
    without determining the problem is just trying to pad his wallet....
     
    Woody, Jun 13, 2005
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    Jason Guest

    The other posters made some great suggestions. I only wanted to add that
    you should look under your car every morning to see if there is a pool of
    oil under the engine. It's possible that oil is leaking from the oil pan
    as a result of defective oil pan gasket. I also advise you to have a
    complete tune-up. Prior to the tune-up, tell the mechanic or the service
    advisor about the oil problem. Perhaps the mechanic can figure out the
    problem. I should note that you should follow the suggestion from the
    other poster related to the PCV valve before you spend the money for the
    tune-up.
    Jason
     
    Jason, Jun 13, 2005
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    TeGGeR® Guest



    How many miles on the car? What model?

    How long (months) does it take you to get to 3,000 miles?
     
    TeGGeR®, Jun 13, 2005
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    MLD Guest

    Get to your dealer right away. This happened to my daughter some years ago;
    no oil on the dip stick after only 250 miles. she had a Civic with 55,000
    miles and out of warranty. The dealer didn't believe her so they filled it
    to the full mark. 250 miles later there was no oil on the dip stick--back to
    the dealer, consulted with Honda who authorized an engine tear down, as
    required, to determine the cause. They found some worn valve seals and
    replaced them. 250 miles later the same problem--back to Honda who again
    said "tear the engine down again". This time they found piston rings worn,
    rebuilt the engine and this solved the oil loss problem. Her cost was
    minimum---just parts the for the first tear down and nothing for the second
    tear down.
    55,000 miles is nothing for one of Honda's engines so they went after the
    problem . Obviously, there was the worry-- "how many more like this are
    there out there? is the cause--design/production problem or a one time
    incident?".
    She ended up with a zero time engine and when she got rid of the car it had
    about 200,000 miles on it.
    MLD
     
    MLD, Jun 13, 2005
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  7. I once heard about an Odyssey that had a 'porous' engine block that allowed
    the oil to leak out of the engine. It was my uncles, and he worked at a
    honda dealership at the time so they fixed it...

    Probably not your problem, i just thought it was weird.
     
    disallow via CarKB.com, Jun 14, 2005
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  8. There have been sporadic reports here of sudden increases in oil consumption
    in fairly low-mileage Honda engines. The few that were resolved turned out
    to be broken piston rings, IIRC.

    Forget the engine flush - it will only obscure some indications of what is
    really happening. With 3K mile oil changes it is a pointless exercise
    anyway.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 14, 2005
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  9. I forgot to mention the model and miles. It's a 99 Honda Civic Si. It has
    117,000 miles on it. It takes about a 2 months for me to get to 3,000 miles.
    I just had the oil changed on sunday. I'll check the oil level today to make
    sure there's still oil in it. Again, there are no noticeable leakage.
     
    RP via CarKB.com, Jun 14, 2005
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    Dave D Guest

    Lots of good advice from other posters but let's simplify this problem. As I
    understand you, there is no oil on the stick when you go for your oil
    change. Only two possibilities exist: 1) There is no oil in the sump or 2)
    the sump has oil in it and the reading on the stick is wrong. Which? When
    the oil is changed at 3k miles, how much do they drain out? I would have the
    place that changes your oil measure the amount of oil drained out. This will
    tell you for sure which possibility it is. If there is no oil in the sump,
    follow the advice given by other posters. If there is a sufficiency of oil
    in the sump, then the first thing I would check would be the dipstick. Is it
    the correct one or did it get switched at a previous oil change? Just a
    thought.

    Dave D
     
    Dave D, Jun 15, 2005
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