No pressure in fuel lines

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by eswaroop, Apr 17, 2004.

  1. eswaroop

    eswaroop Guest

    Hi,

    I was checking my fuel system and fould that when I bled the fuel
    lines, there was practically no pressure to be relieved.. Also, the
    return line to the fuel pump had no fuel coming in to it. Is that the
    way it usually is? The filter seems to be clean.

    I did this after I had driven the car and let it stand for an hour or
    so.
    The car is a 99 accord 4 cylinder. F23A1

    I have been having acceleration hesitation, power loss and mileage
    loss and hence the checking.

    Thanks,

    es
     
    eswaroop, Apr 17, 2004
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  2. eswaroop

    Sean Dinh Guest

    Check the fuel pressure regulator. If it's open all the time, there won't
    be much pressure in the fuel system. The FPR is between the fuel rail and
    fuel return hose. The return hose would not have fuel if all the fuel
    drain off after the fuel pump stops.
     
    Sean Dinh, Apr 17, 2004
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  3. eswaroop

    eswaroop Guest

    Where would the fuel drain off to after the pump stops?

    How do I check the FPR?
     
    eswaroop, Apr 18, 2004
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  4. =============================

    If the inlet of your catalytic converter is plugged up, why bother to
    diddle atround with the fuel system? You said the engine ran, but that
    little pressure came out the tailpipe, especially once you revved it. No
    amount of Techron, or monkeying with the injectors is going to get the
    crud out of your cat. . . . .

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Apr 19, 2004
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  5. eswaroop

    Sean Dinh Guest

    Let me clarify a bit. A pressurized air system would discharge most of the air if you bled the system,
    since air is compressible, like all gas. A pressurized fuel system with metal line and a short run of
    reinforced rubber line would spray little gasoline if you bled the system, since gasoline is
    incompressible, like all liquid. A little bit of gasoline would discharge from a minute volume change
    in the rubber line.

    From my experience bleeding fuel system on Civic, there was little gasoline spill when I bled a
    recently pressurized system. There was a drop or 2 on a system that was not pressurized for a long
    time.

    As for where that gasoline would go after the pump stop, my guess would be that it would leak back
    through the pump. The only proper way to check the FPR is to hook up a Fuel Pressure Gage into the
    fuel system. The FPG I got from Honda was like $35. The universal one was cheaper, but I did not want
    to mess with adapters to fit with Honda's metric system.
     
    Sean Dinh, Apr 19, 2004
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  6. eswaroop

    eswaroop Guest

    Hi,

    I had checked out the CAT, its clean. Not a speck of dust or soot. And
    the flow seems to increase as I further step on the gas, to around
    4000 rpm.

    So I am back to exploring possibilities. My car seems to run better or
    almost normally when the tank is close to empty, and shitty when full,
    and that seems to point towards a fuel system problem. Also, my MPG is
    normal, not bad, on highway I am getting 30. So the problem is mainly
    with the power..

    How/where can I get a Fuel pressure gauge for honda ?

    Thanks

    es
     
    eswaroop, Apr 21, 2004
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  7. eswaroop

    z Guest

    I got a Holley universal item from the local performance store that
    mounts permanently on top of the fuel filter, replaces the brass angle
    fitting. Cost about $30 as I recall. The thing stays rock solid on 40
    lbs, and stays on 40 lbs for a long time after the engine is shut off.
    Like hours.
    From what you say, I would certainly pull out the fuel pump and look
    at the input tube and screen and stuff, maybe look into the tank and
    look for floating crud or water or who knows. I have no idea what it
    might be, but if it's dependent on the fuel level, where else would
    you look?
     
    z, Apr 21, 2004
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