non-interference engine

I was looking at a 2006 Honda Civic and I asked the saleman if the engine
was a Non-interference engine and I got a blank look
So guys help me out here...is it or isn't it!....Thanks

 

why does it bother you?

 

I was looking at a 2006 Honda Civic and I asked the saleman if the engine

Why would it matter if it is or it isn't?

 

I don't know, but it doesn't matter because the engine uses a timing chain
instead of a belt.

 

Don't count on it "not mattering" for that... my old GLC died a messy death when
an improperly-adjusted timing chain slipped a tooth.

 

Very simple....if it is a non-interference engine and your timing belt or
chain breaks it doesn't hurt the engine....

 

IMHO chains have not proven themselves much more reliable than belts. Maybe
they have improved, but the last car I had with a chain (an 84 Dodge with a
Mitsu engine) didn't make it 100K miles before the chain was worn enough to
jump. The first step in replacement was: remove engine from car.

Mike

 

In all my years, I've spun more bearings (2) than I've ever broken a timing
chain (0), or belt for that matter.

Again, why would it matter if it is or it isn't? Do you plan on not
maintaining your vehicle after you purchase it?

Steve

 

Depends on the engine design. Certain cars were notorious for eating timing
chains. The Nissan Axxess had one such. On the the opposite side, the old
Toyota timing chains were very well designed. They'd wear and get noisy,
but never break or jump.

 

Even an engine maintained on schedule is susceptible to sudden death by
valve crash. Usually that comes from water pump failure if the water pump is
driven by the timing belt. In that respect chain driven engines are "safer."

Mike

 

Toyota 4-cylinders have been chain-driven since the late 90s (starting with
the '98 Corolla I believe), and I am not aware of any chain-related failures
in properly maintained cars. Nissan was using chains long before that,
although I don't know how reliable they have been.

 

I think it is more a question of good engineering vs. bad engineering.
Saturn owners have a lot more problems with the chains than Honda
owners have with the belts. Ironic, as the Saturn dealers pitched the
chain as being superior to Honda's belts.

We will see if these new Honda chain engines can routinely go 200K on
the original chains. I am assuming that a chain replacement will end
up costing twice as much as a belt.

Also, how hard is it to change the water pump in these cars? Do you
have to remove the chain?

 

My #2 son had an '82 Toyota Corolla with a chain. We replaced it a few
months before the engine threw a rod :-(

Researching the chain, we found that it was common for them to eat through
the timing chain cover as a result of "stretching" (pivot wear) and that
those covers were at a premium on the used market for that reason.

Mike

 

if you maintain the engine as it's supposed to be, this will *never* be
an issue. you run more danger of wheel bolts fatiguing than you do
having a belt/chain break on a properly maintained engine. and get some
perspective on cost/benefit of failure vs. performance/economy of
interference engines.

come to think of it, this thread smells of fud.

 

The salesman that sold me my 06 Si said that it was a timing belt, and the
scheduled maintenance for it was 100K. Is that incorrect?

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Well the opposite end of that scale would be the trusty old Dodge "Slant-6"
engines... my dad had one in his '81 pickup, never had it replaced that I know
of... when he retired the truck in '87 with over 450,000km, the chain was
streched enough to be constantly rubbing in its guideway... but it just kept on
running (the engine was also drinking a liter of oil with every tank of gas
after my sister ran it dry of oil once). Thin was damn near indestructable.

 

It is incorrect. It uses a timing chain.

 

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The 06 Si comes with a FINE manual. Read The Fine Manual.

Read this too, regarding the 'art' of car salesmanship. It's LONG:
http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/article.html

'Curly'

 

I've heard theories that the slant six almost put dodge outta business due to
lack of parts sales and longevity....

 

I wouldn't doubt it. When I was a kid, my father owned a '77 Dodge Aspen
and our neighbour owned a '79 Plymouth Volare. Both had the slant-6, and
both were major pieces of junk.