O2 Sensor Accord

Discussion in 'Accord' started by JC, Oct 22, 2003.

  1. JC

    JC Guest

    Hi Everyone,

    I own a 1990 Accord EXR ( has only one o2 sensor on the exhaust pipe)
    The check engine light came on and I retrieved code 43 from
    the LED on the ECU. This tells me the O2 sensor failure.
    The light is usually on all the time, but when there is heavy rain
    and I start the car while its still warm the light stays off . Does anyone
    understand how the sensor works?
    Is sometimes referred to as a heater-sensor?

    Thank You,
    JC
     
    JC, Oct 22, 2003
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  2. JC

    Randolph Guest

    It is not referred to as a heater sensor, but rather as a heated Oozygen
    sensor (as opposed to the kind that is not heated). The sensor sits in
    the exhaust pipe before the catalytic converter and measures the amount
    of oxygen left in the exhaust. The leaner the fuel/air mixture is, the
    more oxygen will be left in the exhaust. The ECU will then control the
    air/fuel mixture based on the input from the oxygen sensor so that you
    have the correct mixture. There must be a small amount of oxygen in the
    exhaust for the catalytic converter to work.

    One problem is that the oxygen sensor does not work right until it
    reaches a fairly high temperature. For that reason most cars use an
    oxygen sensor with a small built-in heating element to bring it up to
    temperature quickly. Thus the term heated oxygen sensor.

    It is very simple for the ECU to detect when the heating element breaks.
    The O2 sensor in my '94 Civic lasted about 95k miles before it broke,
    and the failure was a dead heating element.

    Many cars also have an additional oxygen sensor after the cat.
     
    Randolph, Oct 22, 2003
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  3. JC

    dimmi Guest

    You have to replace it. There is no fix. Otherwise gas mileage and your
    catalytic converter will be suffering a lot.

    I would get one from AutoZone or Advance Auto Parts (universal type -
    without connector), possibly boxed as a Bosch O2 sensor, however made by
    either Denso or NGK. Strip wires using enclosed stripping weatherproof kit,
    attach your old connector and you are done. I 've done it once on my 92
    Civic after getting code 43. OEM type made by Denso (however boxed as
    Bosch), exactly the same as if you would buy it from Honda dealer was like
    $160. I got exactly the same sensor but without connector for $75 in Advance
    AP. Saved some money

    Dimmi
     
    dimmi, Oct 23, 2003
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  4. JC

    Robert Guest

    I got a Bosch replacement for my civic, $80 WITH the connector, no need to
    mess with the connector.
     
    Robert, Oct 23, 2003
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  5. JC

    dimmi Guest

    ok, price will depend on the year and model. However, I know that Bosch
    simply doesn't manufacture O2 sensors for several Hondas. They simply rebox
    Denso's or NGK's product.
     
    dimmi, Oct 23, 2003
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  6. JC

    JC Guest

    Thank's everyone!
    JC
     
    JC, Oct 25, 2003
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  7. JC

    JC Guest

    Do you need to heat it with a torch to remove it?
     
    JC, Oct 25, 2003
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  8. JC

    dimmi Guest

    depends on how bad it is. I only used 17 mm deep socket with a 1.5'
    extension bar. It broke loose right away.

    if you decide to use a torch, then apply flame ONLY to the exhaust PIPE
    (manifold) for a short period of time, but not to the sensor. You want pipe
    to expand, not a sensor.

    dimmi
     
    dimmi, Oct 25, 2003
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    JC,
    To remove an O2 sensor, you'd be heating the nipple it sits in, not the
    sensor. You want the nipple to get larger, so the sensor will be looser.
    Some people say you can alos get it ALL hot, then cool the sensor with
    ice to make it shrink.

    'Curly'
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    'Curly Q. Links', Oct 25, 2003
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