OEM Online Honda Parts Sites

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Elle, Dec 26, 2007.

  1. Elle

    Elle Guest

    My 91 Civic is due for some new ignition wires. I started
    checking OEM online Honda parts places that I have used in
    the past. Shipping seems to have shot through the roof. From
    reports here and some other shopping, I have become vaguely
    aware that dealerships increasingly offer parts online at
    discounted internet prices. So I googled for {online OEM
    Honda parts [my state]}. The second hit yielded a dealership
    five miles from me selling prices as competitive as I have
    seen at Majestic and San Leandro Honda (long-time online
    dealers), but of course without the shipping charge. I get
    to pay sales tax, but I am obliged to do so anyway even with
    online purchases.
     
    Elle, Dec 26, 2007
    #1
  2. If you buy online from a supplier who does not have a "business nexus" in
    your state, they can't collect sales tax from you any you're not "obliged"
    to pay it
     
    Inigo Lopez de Loyola, Dec 26, 2007
    #2
  3. If you buy online from a supplier who does not have a "business nexus" in
    your state, they can't collect sales tax from you any you're not "obliged"
    to pay it
     
    Inigo Lopez de Loyola, Dec 26, 2007
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  4. Elle

    Say What? Guest

    Bzzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong answer! At least it is in all the states where I
    have a passing knowledge of their revenue act and that's a couple dozen.

    Just to make sure though, why don't you make a couple of large on-line
    purchases from some firms that don't have the business presence or nexus
    in your state? Then, tally up your receipts and call your state revenue
    department and tell them you purchased goods in a foreign state for use
    in your home state but didn't pay any taxes. See what they say about
    that. I'm sure they'll be more than happy to send you the appropriate
    reporting form.

    Granted, it's an honor system in 99% of the cases but just because it's
    an honor system does not mean you are not obliged to pay the tax.

    OTOH, those that don't report it are probably at 101%<g>
     
    Say What?, Dec 26, 2007
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  5. Elle

    Say What? Guest

    Bzzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong answer! At least it is in all the states where I
    have a passing knowledge of their revenue act and that's a couple dozen.

    Just to make sure though, why don't you make a couple of large on-line
    purchases from some firms that don't have the business presence or nexus
    in your state? Then, tally up your receipts and call your state revenue
    department and tell them you purchased goods in a foreign state for use
    in your home state but didn't pay any taxes. See what they say about
    that. I'm sure they'll be more than happy to send you the appropriate
    reporting form.

    Granted, it's an honor system in 99% of the cases but just because it's
    an honor system does not mean you are not obliged to pay the tax.

    OTOH, those that don't report it are probably at 101%<g>
     
    Say What?, Dec 26, 2007
    #5
  6. Elle

    jim beam Guest

    no you're not. if your supplier doesn't have a presence in your state,
    your online purchases are federally exempt. simply factor that into
    your purchase decision and if it makes sense, order from a supplier
    outside your state and save the tax.
     
    jim beam, Dec 26, 2007
    #6
  7. Elle

    jim beam Guest

    no you're not. if your supplier doesn't have a presence in your state,
    your online purchases are federally exempt. simply factor that into
    your purchase decision and if it makes sense, order from a supplier
    outside your state and save the tax.
     
    jim beam, Dec 26, 2007
    #7
  8. Elle

    jim beam Guest

    not for online transactions - the supremes nixed that.
    http://www.cbpp.org/12-13-99tax.htm
     
    jim beam, Dec 26, 2007
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  9. Elle

    jim beam Guest

    not for online transactions - the supremes nixed that.
    http://www.cbpp.org/12-13-99tax.htm
     
    jim beam, Dec 26, 2007
    #9
  10. Elle

    Say What? Guest

    Jim, please re-READ what you have quoted. It's pretty clear but you do
    have to read and understand what their ruling was. I stand by my
    original post.

    Quote from your link, above:

    Who Will Remit Sales Taxes on Internet and Mail-Order Sales?

    The vitality of the sales tax as a critical state and local government
    revenue source has been eroded in recent years by the rapid growth in
    mail-order and Internet sales. Sales taxes are due on mail-order and
    Internet purchases just as they are on purchases in stores.(1) But a
    large majority of the sales taxes due on mail-order and Internet
    purchases made by individual consumers and a significant share of the
    taxes due on purchases made by businesses are effectively uncollectible.
    States and localities are unable to collect these taxes because the
    Supreme Court has prohibited states from requiring mail-order and
    Internet merchants to charge the customer for the tax and remit it to
    the customer's state unless the merchant has a physical presence or
    "nexus" within the state's borders. This means that although an Internet
    merchant like Amazon.com presumably has customers in every or nearly
    every state, it can only be required to collect sales tax from customers
    in its home state of Washington and a handful of other states in which
    it has built warehouses or stationed personnel.

    If the seller does not charge and remit the tax, laws require customers
    of Internet and mail-order companies to pay the state and local sales
    tax directly to their home states. However, compliance with this
    self-remittance requirement is almost non-existent in the case of
    individual consumers and is spotty in the case of businesses that make
    purchases from Internet, mail-order, and other "remote" sellers. The
    combination of weak tax compliance by purchasers and a sharply limited
    tax collection obligation on the part of remote sellers is eroding the
    sales tax base of state and local governments
     
    Say What?, Dec 26, 2007
    #10
  11. Elle

    Say What? Guest

    Jim, please re-READ what you have quoted. It's pretty clear but you do
    have to read and understand what their ruling was. I stand by my
    original post.

    Quote from your link, above:

    Who Will Remit Sales Taxes on Internet and Mail-Order Sales?

    The vitality of the sales tax as a critical state and local government
    revenue source has been eroded in recent years by the rapid growth in
    mail-order and Internet sales. Sales taxes are due on mail-order and
    Internet purchases just as they are on purchases in stores.(1) But a
    large majority of the sales taxes due on mail-order and Internet
    purchases made by individual consumers and a significant share of the
    taxes due on purchases made by businesses are effectively uncollectible.
    States and localities are unable to collect these taxes because the
    Supreme Court has prohibited states from requiring mail-order and
    Internet merchants to charge the customer for the tax and remit it to
    the customer's state unless the merchant has a physical presence or
    "nexus" within the state's borders. This means that although an Internet
    merchant like Amazon.com presumably has customers in every or nearly
    every state, it can only be required to collect sales tax from customers
    in its home state of Washington and a handful of other states in which
    it has built warehouses or stationed personnel.

    If the seller does not charge and remit the tax, laws require customers
    of Internet and mail-order companies to pay the state and local sales
    tax directly to their home states. However, compliance with this
    self-remittance requirement is almost non-existent in the case of
    individual consumers and is spotty in the case of businesses that make
    purchases from Internet, mail-order, and other "remote" sellers. The
    combination of weak tax compliance by purchasers and a sharply limited
    tax collection obligation on the part of remote sellers is eroding the
    sales tax base of state and local governments
     
    Say What?, Dec 26, 2007
    #11
  12. Elle

    jim beam Guest

    what part of:
    "...because the Supreme Court has prohibited states from requiring
    mail-order and Internet merchants to charge the customer for the tax and
    remit it to the customer's state unless the merchant has a physical
    presence or "nexus" within the state's borders" is unclear?
     
    jim beam, Dec 26, 2007
    #12
  13. Elle

    jim beam Guest

    what part of:
    "...because the Supreme Court has prohibited states from requiring
    mail-order and Internet merchants to charge the customer for the tax and
    remit it to the customer's state unless the merchant has a physical
    presence or "nexus" within the state's borders" is unclear?
     
    jim beam, Dec 26, 2007
    #13
  14. Elle

    Say What? Guest

    I saw it but kept on reading which, apparently, you did not.

    What part of...

    "Sales taxes are due on mail-order and Internet purchases just as they
    are on purchases in stores."

    and

    "If the seller does not charge and remit the tax, laws require
    customers of Internet and mail-order companies to pay the state and
    local sales tax directly to their home states. However, compliance
    with this self-remittance requirement is almost non-existent in the
    case of individual consumers and is spotty in the case of businesses
    that make purchases from Internet, mail-order, and other "remote"
    sellers.." is unclear to you?

    Remember, if you will, that the OP said that he had no obligation to pay
    the tax himself. He is obliged to pay it. As you have pointed out, the
    merchant selling to him is NOT required to collect it unless they have a
    physical presence or nexus in his state. The synopsis of the USSC
    decision also points out that the tax which is due is "effectively
    uncollectable," I said as much in my post.
     
    Say What?, Dec 26, 2007
    #14
  15. Elle

    Say What? Guest

    I saw it but kept on reading which, apparently, you did not.

    What part of...

    "Sales taxes are due on mail-order and Internet purchases just as they
    are on purchases in stores."

    and

    "If the seller does not charge and remit the tax, laws require
    customers of Internet and mail-order companies to pay the state and
    local sales tax directly to their home states. However, compliance
    with this self-remittance requirement is almost non-existent in the
    case of individual consumers and is spotty in the case of businesses
    that make purchases from Internet, mail-order, and other "remote"
    sellers.." is unclear to you?

    Remember, if you will, that the OP said that he had no obligation to pay
    the tax himself. He is obliged to pay it. As you have pointed out, the
    merchant selling to him is NOT required to collect it unless they have a
    physical presence or nexus in his state. The synopsis of the USSC
    decision also points out that the tax which is due is "effectively
    uncollectable," I said as much in my post.
     
    Say What?, Dec 26, 2007
    #15
  16. Elle

    jim beam Guest

    in other words, you're arguing against yourself. well done.
     
    jim beam, Dec 26, 2007
    #16
  17. Elle

    jim beam Guest

    in other words, you're arguing against yourself. well done.
     
    jim beam, Dec 26, 2007
    #17
  18. "jim beam" wrote
    You'd make a good lawyer.

    ;-)
     
    Howard Lester, Dec 26, 2007
    #18
  19. "jim beam" wrote
    You'd make a good lawyer.

    ;-)
     
    Howard Lester, Dec 26, 2007
    #19
  20. Elle

    Say What? Guest

    You really need to do something about your reading comprehension.

    "Ignorance can be cured but stupidity is forever." You appear to be
    either terminal or a troll.
     
    Say What?, Dec 26, 2007
    #20
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