oil change drain plug with valve

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jim Yanik, May 24, 2006.

  1. Jim Yanik

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Has anyone here tried these easy-change oil drain plugs?
    They have a valve with a locking lever to open it.
    http://www.fumotovalve.com/

    I was considering one after chainging my oil recently.
    One version even has a nipple to use tubing to drain the oil into a
    container. No chance of stripping the oilpan threads out.
     
    Jim Yanik, May 24, 2006
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  2. Jim Yanik

    jim beam Guest

    you know, that's one thing i'd definitely never do. oil leakage is one
    thing, but the possibility of total dump from a component like this?
    sorry, not for me. and you don't strip threads if you know what you're
    doing.
     
    jim beam, May 25, 2006
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  3. Jim Yanik

    John Horner Guest

    I used a similar product from Fram once, I think it was called
    Sure-Drain. I ended up ditching it after a few uses because it slowed
    things down and protruded enough under the vehicle that I worried about
    the extra chance of road debris breaking it off.

    I've done hundreds of DIY oil changes over the years and have never
    stripped a thread.

    John
     
    John Horner, May 25, 2006
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  4. I agree with jim and John. I always feared (maybe wrongly) that those gadgets
    would fail on me when I'm out driving in the middle of nowhere. I have never
    stripped the threads on my drain plugs over the years either so the appeal of
    those things means nothing to me.

    It's your call though.
     
    Headknocker via CarKB.com, May 25, 2006
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  5. Jim Yanik

    Jim Yanik Guest

    If you examined the pictures,you would see the LOCKING lever and the notch
    it fits into,preventing unintended oil dumps.
     
    Jim Yanik, May 25, 2006
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  6. Jim Yanik

    Jim Yanik Guest

    My Integra's plug is on the rear of the oil pan,so it would not stick out.
    I wouldn't consider it either if it stuck out frfom the bottom of the pan.
    Well,I just don't like removing the plug and the hot oil splashing all over
    me until I can move my hand out of the stream,especially while lying under
    the car on my back.

    It appears the design prevents any accidental oil dump. (ball valve and
    locking lever)
     
    Jim Yanik, May 25, 2006
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  7. Jim Yanik

    jim beam Guest

    thanks jim, but i saw that. fact remains this is still located under a
    speeding car where all kinds of debris kicks up, and it's subject to
    vibration. hence my position that i'd definitely never have one on my
    car. you are however welcome to have one on yours and i wish you well
    with it. [what i don't understand though is why you'd bother to ask for
    comment if you've already made up your mind and don't want to hear
    anything against it... ]
     
    jim beam, May 26, 2006
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  8. Jim Yanik

    Alan Guest

    You could wear white cotton gloves to keep your hands clean.
     
    Alan, May 26, 2006
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  9. I've had more trouble controlling the mess when changing the filter. With
    the plug I usually get just a couple fingers oily, while with the filter I
    try to avoid having the stuff run into my armpit.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 26, 2006
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  10. Jim Yanik

    shortspark Guest

    The Fumoto valve is the best thing to come along since sliced bread. I
    have a Ridgeline, and like most Hondas I think, it has an aluminum pan.
    That means BIG bucks for replacement and threads can be more easily
    stripped, even if you think you know what you are doing. Put the Fumoto
    on once and thats it for the life of the vehicle. I replaced my plug
    with a Fumoto (a $6 adapter is also required for Hondas) at the first
    oil change. I purchased the kind with a nipple so as to be able to
    attach a hose and run it directly to the oil catcher or bucket - not a
    drop of oil on the hands or floor.

    The spring is very stout and I doubt there is any way you could have it
    fling or knocked open under normal circumstances. If I did lots off
    roading with my Ridgeline, I would purchase the little optional device
    they sell that locks the spring in place. Off roading is the only time
    I might be concerned with a failure but even then I would think it is
    remote.

    This device not only makes changes a snap but it also makes it easy to
    take used oil analysis samples. Many people want to see how their oil
    is doing at certain mileage intervals rather than waiting until the
    final drain. Just open the valve for a few seconds, take your sample
    and shut it. The sample oil is replaced by simply topping off. A piece
    of cake!

    Another good thing about the Fumoto is that it works in any position,
    even upside down. This makes it easy to put it in an accessable (or, if
    one is overally concerned, in a more protective position). On my
    Ridgeline, I had to position it to the side due to an exhaust part that
    would make it too hot to get my finger in there to release the spring (I
    change my oil when hot so as to increase flow rate and insure any
    particles are suspended).

    This contraption must not be screwed in real tight, just snug like the
    normal drain plug. It requires a washer between the adapter and pan and
    also between the valve and adapter. They provide washers and I used one
    between the adapter and valve but for the oil pan I used one that came
    with the Honda filter as it was thicker. I used the Honda crush washer
    instead because in order to have the spring lever in the exact desired
    position, you simply use a thinner or thicker washer as the case may be,
    rather than trying to position it by tightening it further beyond just
    "snug". This device is very well made and the customer support, via
    email, is top notch. They are more than happy to talk to you about it
    and answer questions.

    I think the whole thing, with adapter and the more expensive nipple
    style came to $35 shipped. That is the best money I've spent on this
    truck since I've owned it.

    MARTY
     
    shortspark, May 26, 2006
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  11. Jim Yanik

    Jim Yanik Guest

    I stuffed a wad of paper towels under the filter,and still got a splash on
    my glasses.I don't know why they don't position the filter so it does not
    empty when removed.
     
    Jim Yanik, May 26, 2006
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  12. Marty,

    That's good to hear but I agree with Mike's contention that removing the oil
    filter is more of a messy ordeal than the drain plug.
     
    Headknocker via CarKB.com, May 26, 2006
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  13. Jim Yanik

    jim beam Guest

    it's easy: warm the engine as you normaly would before a change, go
    indoors and have lunch, come out, remove filter. while you're eating,
    the filter drains. no more spill.
     
    jim beam, May 26, 2006
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  14. My old Cessna 182 had on of those things. It was up under the cowling
    where nothing could hit it . You also had to safety wire it closed. I
    don't think I would trust one in the open and without a positive lock
    closed.

    Bob
     
    Apple Dumpling, May 26, 2006
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