Oil changes

All:

I went to the dealer for the free oil change (I get 9 oil changes free for
my new CRV EX). I asked them about what kind the oil they use (since last
time I saw the remind sticker from Kendall). They told me they use the
Kendall oil so I asked in the manual Honda recommends to use Honda oil why
they use Kendall? they said they use whatever oil recommend or meet
requirement from Honda, he also said actually they bought the oil from Honda
!!!
Anyone hear about this?

Thanks

Hai

 

Oil is oil. Get over it. It's free!




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It is one of the deal from the dealer, there are 3 options: 9 oil changes
free, all weather mats and mud guard & something else so it is not really
100% free. I think you are statement "oil is oil" is wrong. There are many
different kind of oil and many grades. Why not many people buy the cheapest
oil from Wal-mart?

 

||It is one of the deal from the dealer, there are 3 options: 9 oil changes
||free, all weather mats and mud guard & something else so it is not really
||100% free. I think you are statement "oil is oil" is wrong. There are many
||different kind of oil and many grades. Why not many people buy the cheapest
||oil from Wal-mart?

If the house brand oil meets the manufacturer's SFI grade specification, it
would be just fine at 3000-mile change intervals.
The current SFI oil is so tightly spec'd that all the majors almost have to
use essentially the same additives. Used to be that you could not mix brands
of oil, because the additives might react. I don't think that's any longer the
case.

In my newer vehicles that do not use oil, I use Mobil 1 or Valvoline synthetic.
I may switch to Shell synthetic. On everything that consumes oil, I use house
brand conventional oil.
Texas Parts Guy

 

How often does your oil get changed? 3-4K miles? Normally-aspirated
engines have no problem going this distance, regardless what oil you
use, as long as it meets the minimum required specs. Now, if you were
planning to do 10-15K mile intervals, I'd advise you to choose your oil
carefully, but not otherwise.

Cheers,

Pete

 

I don't recall that ever being the case!

 

All:

I agree I just wanted to response to the "He Hate Retards and Morons"
<> , he made the statement "oil is oil" and I think
he is wrong.

Hai

 

asshole

 

If your driving habits are normal and you driving your car regularly, the
regular oil would suffice. Also, if you plan on putting the expensive synthetic
oil in your car (which can add up to thousands $$$ spent over the life of your
car), it's usually best to wait awhile (about 35,000KM) in order to give the
engine a chance to completely brake in.

My 98 Civic Has over 170,000KM and I started to put synthetic at about 35,000KM.
Also, I did not follow the dealer's advice for the initial oil change which was
schedule at 7000km. Instead, I got them to get rid of the brake-in oil at about
3000km (they sent me away the first time and gave in the second time around). By
getting rid of the brake-in oil early, it took an extremely long time for my
engine to loosen up enough to return optimum mileage (my guest-estimage is about
35,000km). But now, after 170,000 km of very aggressive driving (and very
expensive oil), my engine is more fuel efficient then ever and I can smack the
195km/hr speed limiter as hard or harder then previous years (note: I can get
650km with 10% of the gas still remaining in the tank)..

Pars

 

"Honda" brand oil is nothing more than an American Honda marketing ploy.
It's made for them by Mobil - it's says that right on the label. It
wouldn't surprise me if it's nothing more that Mobil's latest
formulation. I sincerely doubt it will work better than any other big
name conventional oil brands such as Pennzoil, Castrol, Valvoline, or
Kendall. Honda oil comes with a large premium which doesn't seem
justified to me. I haven't seen a single Honda or Acura dealer use
it, save the 0W-20 (likely just relabelled Mobil 1) for the hybrid
models. Almost all car dealers and shops prefer to use bulk oil in
drums because it's cheaper and more convenient.

Kendall motor oil should be fine, as would any other major brand API SL
grade oil. It's not some small hole in the wall operation. I wouldn't
say that all oil is the same, but you seem to be worrying too much about
using the "perfect" oil for your Honda. If you're really that
concerned, by all means use Mobil 1 in whatever weight is recommended.
That **will** be superior to "Honda oil" or whatever conventional oil
your dealer uses.

As for the "cheapest oil from Wal-mart" comment - I wouldn't be so sure
it's not a relabelled major brand oil that's as good as that Honda oil.
I've heard that Wal-Mart used to buy from Quaker State. It's not that
all oil is the same, but that almost all oil is good enough given
typical 3-4000 mile oil changes and the way most people drive.

Now if you're talking about power steering fluid or ATF, then it's well
known that Honda has specific formulations for these fluids.

 

I agree with you but it is odd the manual said we should use "Honda Oil" for
optimize performance then their own dealers use some other brands.

Hai

 

I agree with you but it is odd the manual said we should use "Honda Oil" for

STFU! Free is free!




____________________________________
How to turn off 'Maintenance Required" light:

1. Hold trip/reset button on dash
2. Turn key to "ON" or start engine
3. Hold button til light goes out
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My new civic has a 10,000 mile change interval for the "normal"
service, which is decribed as pretty normal sorts of driving for
people who do not live in extreme climates, the mountains or do mostly
short trip / city driving. I will go to the synthetic for my first
change, but I don't imagine Honda would suggest a schedule that would
lead to oil related engine failures on a popular car just to
underestimate total ownership costs. I don't see anything that seems
real evidence based when I read all these oil threads on this group,
just a lot of "well, my car has x miles and blah blah blah" or "dude,
your engine will ROAST--it's cheap insurance blahh blah blah" I'll
write back in 4 years when I click over 100K and we'll see how it is
doing.

Yes, I agree that 10K seems like a long time, but I guess the oil
doesn't care how I feel.

 

What is SFI? I'd want more evidence of your suggestion that all the oils
are now the same quality with the same additives. IMO you get pretty much
what you pay for, e.g. if you buy supermarket "house brand" washing up
liquid you just use it faster becase it has less actual detergent in it.
Same with any other house brand product.

Valvoline "synthetic" is no longer a true synthetic oil - don't know about
Shell but I'd be suspicious there too. The only mass market engine oil I
have confidence in as a true synthetic is Mobil1.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

The last I read is that Honda has a contract with Exxon/Mobil for Honda
service oil in the US. I doubt very much that Honda has switched to
Kendall.

Most dealers buy oil from their own choice of sources, not through Honda.

John

 

I don't know. As long as it meets the spec required by the manufacturer,
you can't go wrong.

 

All:

As I said before, I agree if the oil meets specs it is OK. The problem I
have is in Honda manual, they claim Honda oil is designed for "optimize
performance" but their own dealers uses someone else oil.

Hai

 

Alright enough is enough.
There are 30 different brand names of motor oil, and only a handful of oil
refinery that make it. Before using any oil it must meet the American
Petroleum Institute (API) ratings and be the correct multigrade oil
viscosity stated on the engine oil cap or in your owners manuel. Hai, being
a Honda owner for many years the only thing you must be concerned with is
using Honda brand name power steering fluid, and transmission fluid. I would
probably bet Honda motor oil is relabeled Valvoline, or Pennzoil. Your
dealer will fill your Honda with bulk oil of whatever brand he can get the
best deal on. Hai, if I were you I would do my own oil changes if possible
because you can make sure you engine gets what it needs. If you are
particular you will use Synthetic or a Synthetic blend oils.
Hope this helps.
Mike