Oil condition sensing on new Hondas

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Ike, Sep 23, 2006.

  1. Ike

    Ike Guest

    My daughter's new FIT seems to "sense" oil condition, rather than depend
    on miles driven. That's clever, if it's true. Is it?
     
    Ike, Sep 23, 2006
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  2. Ike

    John Horner Guest

    The oil condition is not sensed directly. The engine computer monitors
    total revolutions, temperatures and other factors to arrive at an aging
    curve for the oil. It is much more sophisticated then the old xxx
    miles/yyy months way of doing things.

    GM of all companies has been a leader in this kind of technology, but
    many of the Germans and now Honda are also taking up this methodology.

    Assuming that Honda's engineers did their homework correctly it should
    work out well. If you want a little extra safety factor you could do
    the oil change early, say at 20-30% of indicated oil life remaining
    instead of going until the car insists that it is time.

    The new way is much improved over the old rules-of-thumb.

    John
     
    John Horner, Sep 24, 2006
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  3. Ike

    JXStern Guest

    haven't aircraft engines been done like this forever?

    it occurs to me that hybrid cars might need to do this, too, since the
    internal combustion engine might not even be going, for some
    significant number of miles / hours.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Sep 24, 2006
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  4. Ike

    Dr Nick Guest

    basically the new hondas have a thing called the "maintainence minder" which
    does calculation based on engine temp and revolutions of the engine to
    determine the oil life (pretty much, if you drive hard it wil lower nquick,
    if you drive easy it will go down slower) My accord was first changed at
    about 5000 miles (the computer said 10% oil life left) I currently have 8000
    miles on her and it says I have 40% left.
     
    Dr Nick, Sep 24, 2006
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  5. Ike

    Batty Guest

    How do you reset the sensor when you change the oil?
     
    Batty, Sep 24, 2006
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  6. Ike

    G-Man Guest

    It's in the manual. I just changed the oil on my sons 2006 EX-V6, and it
    was simple, though I don't have the manual handy now.

    G-Man
     
    G-Man, Sep 24, 2006
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  7. Ike

    TeGGeR® Guest



    From Page 170-171 in your Owner's Manual:
    1) Turn the ignition switch to the ON (II) position.
    2) Press the Select/Reset knob repeatedly until the engine oil life
    is displayed.
    3) Press the Select/Reset knob for about 10 seconds. The engine oil
    life and the maintenance item code(s) will blink.
    4) Press the Select/Reset knob for another 5 seconds. The maintenance item
    code(s) will disappear, and the engine oil life will reset to "100".

    I know the manual isn't exactly the latest Michael Crichton novel, but it's
    still worth reading.
     
    TeGGeR®, Sep 26, 2006
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  8. Ike

    Guest Guest

    Has anyone had the used oil tested to see how consistent the oil change
    indicator is?
     
    Guest, Sep 27, 2006
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  9. Ike

    jim beam Guest

    you could use a basic dielectric tester - that's what some of the "field
    analysis" tools do. winter science project.
     
    jim beam, Sep 27, 2006
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  10. Ike

    John Horner Guest

    There have been a few postings on the www.bobistheoilguy.com used oil
    analysis forums where people have gone the distance and had an analysis
    done. Not many though as most obsessive compulsive oil gear heads are
    not able to wait that long!

    :) John
     
    John Horner, Sep 28, 2006
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  11. Ike

    Batty Guest

    Thanks, I guess I should have read the manual instead of the quick
    guide. It says the dealer resets it when servicing. I changed my
    daughter's 05 civic oil twice and never reset the meter. Should I wait
    till it blinks to change?(any thoughts welcome) I am old school oil
    and filter 2000-3000 miles. My wife has a 06 pilot with the oil life
    indicator, no problem yet only 2500 on it.
    Carl
     
    Batty, Sep 29, 2006
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