Oil in radiator - 1998 Accord

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Fabiorossi5, Dec 22, 2006.

  1. Fabiorossi5

    Fabiorossi5 Guest

    I have 85,000 miles. 4 cylinder & 5-speed manual. I take good care of
    the car and never had any problems. Did the maint and a few small
    repairs like CV boots, etc. The radiator fan must have failed an it
    overheated rapidly. I shut it down fast.

    The car was fine but I had oil in the radiator. I took it in. I had
    the head rebuilt, new head gaskets, new radiator, radiator fan, changed
    the timing belt, hoses and other things. I spent about $2700.

    I got the car back and drove it for about two weeks then saw coffee on
    the driveway. I checked the radiator and had coffee again. I took it
    back to the mechanic and now he is pushing a rebuilt motor at cost -
    $900 and $600 in labor. He obviously is feeling a little guilty. The
    car is in good shape. Sadly, we did not go down the replace the engine
    path first. He thinks there might be a crack in the block.

    Any suggestions? I doubt any stop leak stuff will help. I can flush
    the radiator but the oil can get back in fast. I am not sure if the
    oil or water is under more pressure.

    The oil leak prodicts that swell gaskets will not work. I spoke to CRC
    who make nano technology stop leak products going in via the radiator
    but they said if the oil comes into the cooling too fast - their
    product will not work.

    I loved my Honda but I never had a car have a catastrophic failure like
    this.

    No dealers have Accord VPNs with 5 speeds and the price went up. I am
    pretty disgusted with Honda.
     
    Fabiorossi5, Dec 22, 2006
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  2. Fabiorossi5

    jim beam Guest

    most likely. blown gasket on a honda rarely leads to oil in the water.
    either a crack or incorrect assembly.
    it's unfortunate, but statistically, it's rare. very rare. if you want
    to keep the car, don't use a rebuilt motor. they don't last that long
    and are too expensive for what you get. it's best to buy a used jdm
    import engine from japan. low mileage. guarantee. will work just
    fine. have your mechanic replace it and have words with him about all
    the money you wasted on uneconomic repairs last time around. motor
    price in the $500-$700 range. unless you're doing the repair yourself,
    the economics of trying to repair a honda motor just don't work - simply
    replace.
     
    jim beam, Dec 22, 2006
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  3. Fabiorossi5

    jim beam Guest

    most likely. blown gasket on a honda rarely leads to oil in the water.
    either a crack or incorrect assembly.
    it's unfortunate, but statistically, it's rare. very rare. if you want
    to keep the car, don't use a rebuilt motor. they don't last that long
    and are too expensive for what you get. it's best to buy a used jdm
    import engine from japan. low mileage. guarantee. will work just
    fine. have your mechanic replace it and have words with him about all
    the money you wasted on uneconomic repairs last time around. motor
    price in the $500-$700 range. unless you're doing the repair yourself,
    the economics of trying to repair a honda motor just don't work - simply
    replace.
     
    jim beam, Dec 22, 2006
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  4. Fabiorossi5

    Tegger Guest

    wrote in

    I see you've posted this identical message independently to
    rec.autos.tech, BUT at the same time have (correctly) crossposted to two
    Honda groups.

    Bad, stupid boy. Have you ever considered that you may be
    cheating some readers out of the information posted to rec.autos.tech?

    It so happens that a rec.autos.tech poster named Ted Mittelstaedt has
    given the best advice thus far on this subject. Readers who venture not
    beyond the Honda groups remain unenlightened by Ted's nuggets of wisdom.



    This is rich. You screw up your car through bad maintenenace, and then
    you're "disgusted" with Honda.
     
    Tegger, Dec 23, 2006
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  5. Fabiorossi5

    Tegger Guest

    wrote in

    I see you've posted this identical message independently to
    rec.autos.tech, BUT at the same time have (correctly) crossposted to two
    Honda groups.

    Bad, stupid boy. Have you ever considered that you may be
    cheating some readers out of the information posted to rec.autos.tech?

    It so happens that a rec.autos.tech poster named Ted Mittelstaedt has
    given the best advice thus far on this subject. Readers who venture not
    beyond the Honda groups remain unenlightened by Ted's nuggets of wisdom.



    This is rich. You screw up your car through bad maintenenace, and then
    you're "disgusted" with Honda.
     
    Tegger, Dec 23, 2006
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  6. Fabiorossi5

    jim beam Guest

    that means me - i have ZERO interest in gm, frod or chrysler.
     
    jim beam, Dec 23, 2006
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  7. Fabiorossi5

    jim beam Guest

    that means me - i have ZERO interest in gm, frod or chrysler.
     
    jim beam, Dec 23, 2006
    #7
  8. Fabiorossi5

    Tegger Guest



    But there are several actual working professional techs in that group. One
    of them is a Toyota mechanic who also has extensive Honda experience.

    There is a lot of excellent general automotive information posted there
    regularly.
     
    Tegger, Dec 23, 2006
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  9. Fabiorossi5

    Tegger Guest



    But there are several actual working professional techs in that group. One
    of them is a Toyota mechanic who also has extensive Honda experience.

    There is a lot of excellent general automotive information posted there
    regularly.
     
    Tegger, Dec 23, 2006
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  10. Fabiorossi5

    jim beam Guest

    and a /lot/ of utter garbage.

    for instance, i swung on over to read the mittelstadt comment you
    referenced and noticed a thread titled "calculate diesel fuel
    consumption". 4 days later, no one has pointed out that it /is/
    possible to calculate consumption if injector flow rates and pulse
    widths are known. if the injection is common rail/electronic, that can
    be scoped.

    so yes, there's a lot of service technician level activity, but that
    doesn't interest me. my jets get lit by things like graham w's write-up
    on igniter failure, not some buick dude bleating about his brakes.
     
    jim beam, Dec 23, 2006
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  11. Fabiorossi5

    jim beam Guest

    and a /lot/ of utter garbage.

    for instance, i swung on over to read the mittelstadt comment you
    referenced and noticed a thread titled "calculate diesel fuel
    consumption". 4 days later, no one has pointed out that it /is/
    possible to calculate consumption if injector flow rates and pulse
    widths are known. if the injection is common rail/electronic, that can
    be scoped.

    so yes, there's a lot of service technician level activity, but that
    doesn't interest me. my jets get lit by things like graham w's write-up
    on igniter failure, not some buick dude bleating about his brakes.
     
    jim beam, Dec 23, 2006
    #11
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