One of those days...

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by ritpg, Dec 6, 2006.

  1. ritpg

    ritpg Guest

    Left my lights on my '05 Element today and when I got out of work, of
    course, the battery was dead. The lights were not on that long. I was
    surprised the battery died that quickly. This happened one time
    before. We were tailgating for a couple of hours with the radio on and
    the back hatch open. Dead battery that time too. Today the battery
    died to the extent that I got the enter code alert on the radio after
    jump starting the car. I entered the code easily enough but now I get
    no sound. The radio display indicates that the radio is operating: I
    can switch from AM to FM to XM, etc. Turning the volume knob gives me
    the usual display indication that the volume is increasing but I get no
    sound at all. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I would fix
    it?

    Thanks.
     
    ritpg, Dec 6, 2006
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  2. ritpg

    motsco_ Guest

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    Now that your battery is OK you need to disconnect it for 20 seconds and
    then hook it up again. Some things need to reset, and a complete
    disconnect is the only way. The Odyssey is WAY worse for this because of
    all the interior lights and sliding doors.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Dec 6, 2006
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  3. ritpg

    motsco_ Guest

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    Now that your battery is OK you need to disconnect it for 20 seconds and
    then hook it up again. Some things need to reset, and a complete
    disconnect is the only way. The Odyssey is WAY worse for this because of
    all the interior lights and sliding doors.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Dec 6, 2006
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  4. Sure sounds like a bad battery, with a possibility it isn't being charged
    right. Depending on your climate, the battery either died young or not. If
    you are in Arizona two years is about the best you can hope for from an
    under-the-hood battery. If you are in Wisconsin that's pretty bad.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 6, 2006
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  5. Sure sounds like a bad battery, with a possibility it isn't being charged
    right. Depending on your climate, the battery either died young or not. If
    you are in Arizona two years is about the best you can hope for from an
    under-the-hood battery. If you are in Wisconsin that's pretty bad.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 6, 2006
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  6. ritpg

    ritpg Guest

    Thanks so much for the quick response. I'm pretty sure the battery is
    "working as designed" (it's definitely holding a charge and cranking
    the same as it always has). I disconnected the battery for a couple of
    minutes, reconnected it, entered the "code" and still have the same
    problem. The only thing that is not working is the sound on the radio.
    Do you have any other suggestions? Because this radio has a
    subwoofer, I suspect it has circuitry independent of the radio. I
    opened the fuse box on the driver's side of the engine compartment and
    didn't see a single fuse relating to the radio or sound system. Are
    those fuses somewhere else?

    The battery never did sound like it had a lot of cranking power from
    the day I drove it off the lot. It's a low priced vehicle, probably
    with a low priced battery.

    Thanks, again.
     
    ritpg, Dec 6, 2006
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  7. ritpg

    ritpg Guest

    Thanks so much for the quick response. I'm pretty sure the battery is
    "working as designed" (it's definitely holding a charge and cranking
    the same as it always has). I disconnected the battery for a couple of
    minutes, reconnected it, entered the "code" and still have the same
    problem. The only thing that is not working is the sound on the radio.
    Do you have any other suggestions? Because this radio has a
    subwoofer, I suspect it has circuitry independent of the radio. I
    opened the fuse box on the driver's side of the engine compartment and
    didn't see a single fuse relating to the radio or sound system. Are
    those fuses somewhere else?

    The battery never did sound like it had a lot of cranking power from
    the day I drove it off the lot. It's a low priced vehicle, probably
    with a low priced battery.

    Thanks, again.
     
    ritpg, Dec 6, 2006
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  8. ritpg

    ritpg Guest

    Thanks for the response, Mike. I'm not inclined to think it's the
    battery. It holds a charge and cranks the way it always has. Any
    other thoughts?
     
    ritpg, Dec 6, 2006
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  9. ritpg

    ritpg Guest

    Thanks for the response, Mike. I'm not inclined to think it's the
    battery. It holds a charge and cranks the way it always has. Any
    other thoughts?
     
    ritpg, Dec 6, 2006
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  10. I do not know. It does not sound like a battery problem.

    Is there an external amplifier somewhere (you mentioned a sub woofer)?
    The external amp may need to be reset. Some radios can direct output
    directly to the external amp, by passing the radio's internal amp. If
    so, maybe there is an in-line fuse somewhere in the power supply for
    that amp. If it is aftermarket amp, then the fuse might not be in the
    fuse block.

    Is there a mute button on the radio somewhere? I have never heard of
    such a thing, but who knows. I know some radios are sensitive to noise
    and crank up the volume as noise increases. Maybe some system like
    that has muted the radio. An owners manual would help you there. My
    much older Honda radio has several little buttons that are easy to
    press accidentally.


    Elliot Richmond
    Itinerant astronomy teacher
     
    Elliot Richmond, Dec 6, 2006
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  11. I do not know. It does not sound like a battery problem.

    Is there an external amplifier somewhere (you mentioned a sub woofer)?
    The external amp may need to be reset. Some radios can direct output
    directly to the external amp, by passing the radio's internal amp. If
    so, maybe there is an in-line fuse somewhere in the power supply for
    that amp. If it is aftermarket amp, then the fuse might not be in the
    fuse block.

    Is there a mute button on the radio somewhere? I have never heard of
    such a thing, but who knows. I know some radios are sensitive to noise
    and crank up the volume as noise increases. Maybe some system like
    that has muted the radio. An owners manual would help you there. My
    much older Honda radio has several little buttons that are easy to
    press accidentally.


    Elliot Richmond
    Itinerant astronomy teacher
     
    Elliot Richmond, Dec 6, 2006
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  12. ritpg

    motsco_ Guest

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    Sounds like the radio was turned ON when the vehicle was boosted. If
    somebody got the booster cables backwards for even a split-second, the
    radio may be wrecked. There are TWO fuses that power the radio, have you
    checked them both?

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Dec 6, 2006
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  13. ritpg

    ritpg Guest

    Curly, you may have something. I believe the cable did get crossed for
    an instant during the boost. I have not checked the radio fuses
    because I can't find them; they don't seem to be in the fuse box in the
    engine compartment. Remember the display on the radio indicates that
    it is working. I can see channels and when I turn the volume knob, I
    see the volume incrementing. When you say "wrecked", what do you mean?
     
    ritpg, Dec 7, 2006
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  14. ritpg

    ritpg Guest

    Problem solved. Once I read the owner's manual and found out where the
    2nd fuse box was, it was simple. The fuse labeled AMP (20 amps) had
    blown apparently when the +/- wires touched briefly when I was
    connecting the jumper cable. I've also reprogrammed the window lift on
    the driver's side. So everything is back to normal.

    Thanks to all of you who responded.
     
    ritpg, Dec 12, 2006
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  15. ritpg

    ritpg Guest

    Problem solved. Once I read the owner's manual and found out where the
    2nd fuse box was, it was simple. The fuse labeled AMP (20 amps) had
    blown apparently when the +/- wires touched briefly when I was
    connecting the jumper cable. I've also reprogrammed the window lift on
    the driver's side. So everything is back to normal.

    Thanks to all of you who responded.
     
    ritpg, Dec 12, 2006
    #15
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