OT Cheney - Cutting Gas Tax Stupid

How is THAT not insurance?

That MA effort is an experiment that failed before it was conceived.
Just wait until people get their tax bills. That program will hit the
shitter faster than your ideas.

 

See "stem cells from mature donors".

 

Gee, it is the answer in every other civilized country. Virtually any
of these systems would be preferable to what we have now.

If you think "Gubmint-run" healthcare is so bad, what is your plan to
replace Medicare? Should we keep working until we die so that we can
get employer health insurance? What about companies that don't
provide it? Would you have the old folks buy private insurance? What
do you suppose the cost would be today to buy a good policy for a
70-year-old man in average health? I would guess it would be at least
$5000 a month and you could still have substantial out-of-pocket
expenses. That is, if you could get insurance at all, which you
probably couldn't.

So why do so many people pay out the nose for insurance? Yes, there
is Medicaid. A lot of people who have worked hard all their lives and
built up a little money find that they can't get or can't afford
private insurance. Then they get sick, go bankrupt and then they get
insurance.

Let Medicare compete with private insurance.

 

My tax returns, my tax lawyer, and a little left-wing rag known as
INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY. Everyone older than McCain, as you and I
are, knows Reagan raised taxes when it was apparent the supply-side
magic wasn't working as advertised.

 

State money for roads does not go to Iraq....

No.
The Libs and greenies have kept them from being built by sueing to save this
Worm and that plant...

There was no "intentional malice".

But Diesel is effectivly Home heating fuel and that demand has gone up....
and with Diesel being needed more and more in world markets (china and
india) there is less
available, hence a price hike...Supply and demand...

Yea...Just the republicans....algore didn't endorse this at all, and
nooooone of the other dems either....

Se my last reply.....

And some governments can subsidize their own fuel costs by offsetting it
with profits made from fuel.
Venezuela and most of the middle east are like that.
If we could drill here, we could prolly do it to.....
But, the Dems and liberals have prevented offshore drilling for 30 years, so
Cuba could drill instead....

Still bitter that the process worked the way it was supposed to huh?

 

What part of PAY OF DEBT UNTIL 1978 did you miss?
We SPENT a lot of money to rebuilt Europe, and The Pacific.

 

My oil is all Canadian....LOL

 

The real burden fell on George "read my lips, no new taxes" Bush who
had to raise taxes appreciably to combat the wild overspending and
trillion $ deficits accumulated by Reagan. Note that the piper is
coming due now on GWB's wild overspending and trillion $ deficits.

 

Apparently you don't know the definition of "insurance" vs. "state
payout for the uninsured". Perhaps a look at Webster's would help you
understand "Insurance - Coverage by a contract binding a party to
indemnify another against specified loss in return for premiums paid."

I agree it's a nightmare. But MA residents likely won't notice since
their tax bills are already at ridiculous levels and the percentage
increase will be small by comparison. Some residents have noticed as
they are now REQUIRED to buy coverage or face a penalty when they file
taxes. That hasn't stopped the moronic effort though because those
folks are not influential in any way.

 

The "right" to purchase? Yes - assuming they have the $10K a year for
a policy that still will have only 80% coverage, high out of pocket
costs, and $500-1000 deductibles per person. Or perhaps they have $5K
for a $5k deductible policy. Either way, you need a big chunk of
change to purchase your own coverage and you still pay a huge chunk
out of your pocket (because health insurance is a service policy, not
an insurance policy, except in catastrophic cases).

As for "converting existing coverage", I have to assume you are
referring to someone who has lost a job that provided insurance and
has been given a right under CORBA to start paying the policy
themselves. That coverage gets very expensive as soon as the employer
paid portion runs out.

You seem to be someone who has always had employer paid coverage which
they consider "free" - and not someone who has even run a company and
had to shoulder the $8K per year per employee or an individual who has
to pay $10K per year for short coverage.

 

Do you have any idea how many people are not eligible for Medicaid or
Medicare yet still don't make enough to shell out $10K per year for
insurance after paying for housing and food? Word up - we're not
talking about the "poor" here, we're talking about millions of middle
class Americans.

Only for emergencies. Try getting physical therapy for muscle and bone
injuries without insurance. Try getting a bad hip replaced without
insurance. Look into scoliosis treatment. The list goes on.

 

They are highly restricted by income. You really have no feel for the
depth of the health insurance problem.

 

By definition, everyone in the 15% bracket pays a marginal rate of
15%.

 

It is a commodity. All demand drives up the profits for all
producers.

 

No, they do not. They pay 15% of their adjusted income.

 

Same result. We're paying the premiums one way or another.

 

I shopped for my employer. If people were more selective about who they
worked for and took more personal responsibility for their own welfare,
the "problem" would not exist.

 

If they are in need, there's existing tax-funded plans that will cover them.

 

If a person doesn't have enough to cover insurance premiums they will
fall in that category. If they make enough to not fall in that
lower-income category then they will have enough to get their insurance.
IF THEY TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

 

Which says it all.