OT Cheney - Cutting Gas Tax Stupid

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Don't Taze Me, Bro!, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. Children already have insurance. Why test embryonic stem cells when it
    has been fact that older stem cells were capable of the same results.
    And the stem cell research was to be done on EMBRYONIC stem cells, not
    on unfertilized eggs.
     
    Peaceful Bill, Jun 16, 2008
  2. What a complete imbecile.
     
    Peaceful Bill, Jun 16, 2008
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    Bill Putney Guest

    That's an understatement.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 16, 2008
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    Foobar Guest

    There are few programs for the uninsured. The only "programs" in most
    Which is by definition "insurance".
     
    Foobar, Jun 16, 2008
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    dgk Guest

    They are obligated to treat the emergency. My friend just went to the
    ER for a stomach ache. They decided he wasn't about to die and
    proscribed Maalox and told him that it could be Gall Bladder and told
    him to go to his doctor. They do not have to treat anything that is
    not urgent.

    Having insurance, he went to his doctor and found out that, yes
    indeed, the GB must come out. But the ER isn't going to do it.

    Taiwan recently instituted national healthcare, based on the best
    available model, Medicare.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/oct/07/taiwangetshealthy

    If only we were advanced enough to do the same.
     
    dgk, Jun 16, 2008
  6. I'm glad that we're not backward enough to do the same.
     
    Peaceful Bill, Jun 16, 2008
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    dgk Guest


    Did you read the stats? Better care and cheaper.
     
    dgk, Jun 17, 2008
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    Kevin Guest

    The only thing the gov ever did as good or at least not a giant waste of
    money as the private sector is the post office!!!!!!!!!!!! KB
     
    Kevin, Jun 17, 2008
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    Foobar Guest

    Ok. Show me one person in the 15% tax bracket that pays 15%. Just
    one.
     
    Foobar, Jun 17, 2008
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    Foobar Guest

    Some sort of program for commercial vehicles to exempt them.
    Nope.

    Naive. If everyone quit driving today, the Gov't would get it's money
    elsewhere.

    How about a $5.00 per pound (per week) tax on fat people. That will
    keep them from eating, right? If that seems high, one can always lose
    30 pounds a month, at least that's what they say on TV.
     
    Foobar, Jun 17, 2008
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    Foobar Guest

    I'd give the credit quarterly to every working adult under a certain
    Nope. I can deliver Pizza, consume gas, and not report the income
    from tips.
     
    Foobar, Jun 17, 2008
  12. Better care bullshit. I'd rather have agreement with my doctor about my
    healthcare rather than another lifetime bureaucrat.
     
    Peaceful Bill, Jun 17, 2008
  13. So the bureaucrat's at the Insurance Company making the decisions are
    OK with you then?
     
    still just me, Jun 17, 2008
  14. Cite the programs, smart guy.
     
    still just me, Jun 17, 2008
  15. Apparently you don't have much of a clue Bill. Please cite some of
    those programs for the uninsured - aside from the state reimbursing
    the hospital for uninsured (and uncollectable) emergency room care.

    Aside from a few disjointed state programs, and a totalitarian effort
    now underway in MA, there is little out there for the uninsured.
     
    still just me, Jun 17, 2008
  16. Please back that up with any kind of evidence.
    See "In vitro fertilization".
     
    still just me, Jun 17, 2008
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Medicaid. AFDC.

    Bill Putney
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    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 18, 2008
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    dgk Guest

    Well yes, of course. But that is the problem with HMOs, not medicare.
    Medicare doesn't make a profit by denying you service. Plus, why
    should I have to change doctors (I've had the same GP for 25 years)
    because my new job's healthplan doesn't include him? With single
    payer, I can keep my doctor.

    I used to work for a company that sold computer systems for clinical
    laboratories. Your blood goes there, they analyze it, you get results
    and someone gets a bill. I mostly wrote the interfaces between the
    system and the laboratory instrumentation, but we also handled the
    billing software. The instruments were fun, but the billing was a
    nightmare. Each provider had different billing rules, some tests were
    billed to one provider, but if you went over a certain number per year
    then they were billed somewhere else. There were book after book of
    rules like that. We went to conferences all the time just to figure
    out how to keep the billing straight. The whole situation is stupid
    and a waste of effort. I'd say duplication of services but that
    grossly understates the inefficiency.
     
    dgk, Jun 18, 2008
  19. I can change insurance companies. I can't change some lifetime
    bureaucrat. They are locked into their job.
     
    Peaceful Bill, Jun 18, 2008
  20. You seem to be one of the uneducated. So read slowly so you can
    understand. I'm not going to repeat this even if you just don't get it....

    Medicaid, Medicare. Any hospital MUST take patients even if they can't pay.

    And EVERYONE has the right to select and purchase health insurance, or
    to convert existing coverage.
     
    Peaceful Bill, Jun 18, 2008
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