OT; Nitrogen filled tires

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Tony Hwang, May 16, 2008.

  1. Tony Hwang

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
    tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
     
    Tony Hwang, May 16, 2008
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  2. Tony Hwang

    jim beam Guest

    not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in the
    first place?
     
    jim beam, May 16, 2008
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  3. Tony Hwang

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    Wife had new tires put on at Costco and they only use nitrogen.
    When I took the car to a lube joint for oil change they are not gonna
    bother with tire pressure check because of nitrogen(green valve cap).
     
    Tony Hwang, May 16, 2008
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  4. Tony Hwang

    jim beam Guest

    just do it yourself and fill at the next gas station.

    there's a small advantage to nitrogen related to partial pressures, but
    that only works on initial fill. after that, you may as well just
    maintain pressure with free/cheaper air. you'll certainly never know
    any difference driving around.
     
    jim beam, May 16, 2008
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  5. Tony Hwang

    mjc13 Guest

    Since air is mostly nitrogen anyway, you will just end up with less
    nitrogen in the mix, which was probably not 100% nitrogen to begin with,
    because the tires would have had some air in them before inflation.
     
    mjc13, May 16, 2008
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  6. Tony Hwang

    Tegger Guest



    Indeed.

    Of what advantage is 85% nitrogen over the 78% in regular air?
     
    Tegger, May 16, 2008
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  7. Google "atmosphere composition"
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, May 16, 2008
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  8. Tony Hwang

    Jim Yanik Guest

    it wastes the oney you spent to get a nitrogen fill.

    less O2 for the tires to absorb?
    (internal pressure forcing more absorbtion that outside air.)
     
    Jim Yanik, May 16, 2008
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  9. Tony Hwang

    jim beam Guest

    that's why you shouldn't waste your money in the first place!

    tires "absorb" [diffuse] oxygen from atmosphere anyway. if the tire is
    100% nitrogen, oxygen will still diffuse in - partial pressures.

    the only technical advantage to nitrogen is on the extreme performance
    end of the spectrum where you may want to minimize oxygen for fire
    protection, or water vapor [always present in air] for icing. like
    aerospace.
     
    jim beam, May 16, 2008
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  10. Tony Hwang

    JXStern Guest

    if you allow any of the nitrogen to escape, thousands could be killed.

    /sarc
     
    JXStern, May 17, 2008
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  11. Tony Hwang

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Yup,
    Begining with you first, LOL!
     
    Tony Hwang, May 17, 2008
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  12. Tony Hwang

    LakeGator Guest

    "Oh, the humanity!"
     
    LakeGator, May 17, 2008
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  13. Tony Hwang

    Chuck Guest

    As I recall consumer reports did something about this and it works really
    well........................ at sucking $$ from peoples pockets.

    That's about all.
     
    Chuck, May 17, 2008
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  14. Tony Hwang

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    Our local Costco tirep shop only uses Nitrogen for some reason.
    Their price is very good.
     
    Tony Hwang, May 18, 2008
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  15. That is as may be but I can tell you this. It works wonders for tires when
    the temps hit -35F and even colder.

    Dave D
     
    Dave and Trudy, May 18, 2008
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  16. Tony Hwang

    Jeff Guest

    Nitrogen has less water than air. Because the water in air tends to
    condense onto the tire and rim or even get into the rubber, the amount
    of water in the air doesn't stay constant, causing changes in tire
    pressure with air. However, unless your regular drive is in a race car,
    the changes are too small to make any real difference.

    Personally, I use 80% nitrogen myself. The rest is mostly oxygen. And,
    this gas is free at some gas stations. It's called "compressed air."

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, May 18, 2008
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  17. Tony Hwang

    Joe Guest

    I think you just found their reason. Noone charges much for air ($.50
    at a gas-station machine, max). But they get to make money by selling
    you nitrogen... ;-)
     
    Joe, May 22, 2008
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  18. Tony Hwang

    road apple Guest

    I use 80% nitrogen. It's called air and is free.

    Bob
     
    road apple, May 22, 2008
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  19. <belatedly> how so? (serious question, BTW)
     
    Sparky Harding, Sep 15, 2008
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  20. Probably because the water is removed as the nitrogen is compressed, the
    same as when air is compressed for scuba tanks. If you want to try
    really dry air, inflate your tires with compressed air from a scuba
    shop. I don't know that I'd bother, but it certainly is possible.
     
    Sparky Harding, Sep 15, 2008
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