oxygen sensors

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by z, Sep 15, 2008.

  1. z

    Tegger Guest


    Which is double-plus ungood, by the way.
     
    Tegger, Nov 1, 2008
  2. z

    z Guest

    i posted it was B16A on the boss; maybe you missed it, or i absent
    mindedly replied to only one newsgroup or something.
    but thanks, i found the sensor where you said, correct wire color and
    all. the temp gauge doesn't move when i ground the wire, which
    according to manual means that end of the setup is malfunctioning
    rather than the sensor. the temp gauge did go up when the heater hose
    blew, though, so ??? anyway, bad wiring i can deal with no problem.
    bad combustion might be a factor; i finally got around to replacing
    the plugs today, and the old ones weren't iridium, and were pretty
    badly gone. i'm amazed the engine wasn't symptomatic, but maybe it was
    as you describe. i haven't had a chance to take it on a serious run
    since replacing the plugs, but maybe now it'll heat up some. gotta
    find my timing light, too.
    it's always been a good running engine, though, healthy power up to
    redline; but also one that ran rich and cool. i wish i was rich and
    cool....
     
    z, Nov 3, 2008
  3. z

    z Guest

    i posted it was B16A on the boss; maybe you missed it, or i absent
    mindedly replied to only one newsgroup or something.
    but thanks, i found the sensor where you said, correct wire color and
    all. the temp gauge doesn't move when i ground the wire, which
    according to manual means that end of the setup is malfunctioning
    rather than the sensor. the temp gauge did go up when the heater hose
    blew, though, so ??? anyway, bad wiring i can deal with no problem.
    bad combustion might be a factor; i finally got around to replacing
    the plugs today, and the old ones weren't iridium, and were pretty
    badly gone. i'm amazed the engine wasn't symptomatic, but maybe it was
    as you describe. i haven't had a chance to take it on a serious run
    since replacing the plugs, but maybe now it'll heat up some. gotta
    find my timing light, too.
    it's always been a good running engine, though, healthy power up to
    redline; but also one that ran rich and cool. i wish i was rich and
    cool....
     
    z, Nov 3, 2008
  4. z

    Tegger Guest



    The B16A was a JDM-only engine.



    Either the gauge is blown or the wire has a break in it. When engines
    are swapped, it's common for wires to get accidentally overextended
    (stretched) or pinched between parts. It may that be you had partial
    connectivity when the hose blew.

    You can get a new dash cluster from a wreckers, and test that gauge. If
    that one works, swap it into your existing cluster.

    ***WARNING***
    Turn ignition OFF before testing gauge. Ground the gauge wire from the
    sender FIRST, THEN turn the ignition on. DO NOT ALLOW the gauge needle
    to reach "H" once the ignition is turned on! Doing so will wreck the
    gauge! All you need to see is definite needle movement from its home
    position. Once you're certain the needle is moving, TURN THE KEY OFF
    QUICKLY; it can shoot up fast!



    I hope you put the right plugs in.


    Maybe you were so used to crappy running you were used to it.



    This engine has _not_ had good care. Lord only knows what else is wrong
    with it.

    Timing lights with built in tachs are all of $75 or so. A very good
    investment. You have a 2-degree + or - tolerance on timing. A timing
    light is 100% necessary to achieve that precision. The engine will not
    run properly (and may be damaged) with incorrect timing.



    Rich and cool in an engine is very bad. Rich and cool eats up your rings
    and bearings so fast it's amazing. Get your ride fixed ASAP, or start
    saving for a new engine.
     
    Tegger, Nov 4, 2008
  5. z

    Tegger Guest



    The B16A was a JDM-only engine.



    Either the gauge is blown or the wire has a break in it. When engines
    are swapped, it's common for wires to get accidentally overextended
    (stretched) or pinched between parts. It may that be you had partial
    connectivity when the hose blew.

    You can get a new dash cluster from a wreckers, and test that gauge. If
    that one works, swap it into your existing cluster.

    ***WARNING***
    Turn ignition OFF before testing gauge. Ground the gauge wire from the
    sender FIRST, THEN turn the ignition on. DO NOT ALLOW the gauge needle
    to reach "H" once the ignition is turned on! Doing so will wreck the
    gauge! All you need to see is definite needle movement from its home
    position. Once you're certain the needle is moving, TURN THE KEY OFF
    QUICKLY; it can shoot up fast!



    I hope you put the right plugs in.


    Maybe you were so used to crappy running you were used to it.



    This engine has _not_ had good care. Lord only knows what else is wrong
    with it.

    Timing lights with built in tachs are all of $75 or so. A very good
    investment. You have a 2-degree + or - tolerance on timing. A timing
    light is 100% necessary to achieve that precision. The engine will not
    run properly (and may be damaged) with incorrect timing.



    Rich and cool in an engine is very bad. Rich and cool eats up your rings
    and bearings so fast it's amazing. Get your ride fixed ASAP, or start
    saving for a new engine.
     
    Tegger, Nov 4, 2008
  6. z

    z Guest

    yep. this is one of the slow boat from nippon swaps.
    no, i got onto the ngk site and decoded the code, and those are the
    correct indium plugs heat range, etc.

    maybe... it goes pretty quick except a while ago i got on the onramp
    behind a subaru wrx sti who seemed to be in a hurry. that certainly
    changes your sense of scale regarding acceleration.
    oh i could send you a list. when they say those japanese junkyard
    engines are only lightly used, don't believe them. this one got a good
    going over before installation, and has needed a lot of work since.
    just a couple off oddities: no oil pan gasket, just a bead of silicon
    goo. stripped engine mount bolt holes in the front of the engine.

    but it does run happy.
    well, lots of frequent oil changes in an attempt to stave off the oil
    dilution. i still can't figure out what could keep an engine from
    getting at least normally hot after half an hour or more of vigorous
    driving on the interstate in the summer. particularly with several
    different new thermostats in there.
     
    z, Nov 5, 2008
  7. z

    z Guest

    yep. this is one of the slow boat from nippon swaps.
    no, i got onto the ngk site and decoded the code, and those are the
    correct indium plugs heat range, etc.

    maybe... it goes pretty quick except a while ago i got on the onramp
    behind a subaru wrx sti who seemed to be in a hurry. that certainly
    changes your sense of scale regarding acceleration.
    oh i could send you a list. when they say those japanese junkyard
    engines are only lightly used, don't believe them. this one got a good
    going over before installation, and has needed a lot of work since.
    just a couple off oddities: no oil pan gasket, just a bead of silicon
    goo. stripped engine mount bolt holes in the front of the engine.

    but it does run happy.
    well, lots of frequent oil changes in an attempt to stave off the oil
    dilution. i still can't figure out what could keep an engine from
    getting at least normally hot after half an hour or more of vigorous
    driving on the interstate in the summer. particularly with several
    different new thermostats in there.
     
    z, Nov 5, 2008
  8. z

    Tegger Guest


    Find that timing light. You may be dumping all the combustion into the
    exhaust manifold.

    Also, is the spark bright purply blue at the plugs? Check with a spare plug
    (any type will do so long as the gap is correct) in a dark garage or at
    night.

    (Removed the crosspost to rec.autos.tech, as nobody's replying there
    anyway.)
     
    Tegger, Nov 5, 2008
  9. z

    Tegger Guest


    Find that timing light. You may be dumping all the combustion into the
    exhaust manifold.

    Also, is the spark bright purply blue at the plugs? Check with a spare plug
    (any type will do so long as the gap is correct) in a dark garage or at
    night.

    (Removed the crosspost to rec.autos.tech, as nobody's replying there
    anyway.)
     
    Tegger, Nov 5, 2008
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