Thanks for the answers. The local Honda service manager told me Honda returned the favor and rebadged their Odyssey for Isuzu so he keeps one Isuzu tech on staff for the crossbreeds. Found the Trooper in Consumer Reports. '98 was the best year earning an an overall average but got worse from there. Hmmmm, aren't'cha 'spozed to work the bugs OUT as the model matures? Any way, thanks again.