ping tegger--As seen at a Toyota Dealership

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Stephen H, Feb 9, 2006.

  1. Stephen H

    Stephen H Guest

    Went to the Toyota dealership to get some parts for work, and to check on
    some things for myself; Guess what they had on the parts section shelf? The
    K&N golf ball display that totes how good the k&N filter is.
    I told the kid I wouldn't think a Dealership would promote an aftermarket
    product such as that, as the engineers do a lot of research in designing a
    car. He replied something to the effect that the engineers are bean counters
    and that on some areas they cut corners to make something cheaper.
    I told him of the Filter study done and it's results, but he seemed to think
    it was all internet garbage. I also pointed out the push for Genuine Toyota
    Parts on a Toyota Car, and how something like a MAF has difference specs for
    each car, that a aftermarket brand won't always have the desired results. In
    our shop we weigh the cost vs. availability and performance of such parts on
    a daily basis. Most of the time OEM looses over cost; but if the Dealership
    doesn't stick with OEM parts, why should we.

    A instructor told us at a class "If the aftermarket parts world worked (such
    as performance air filters, fuel line magnets and such) the car dealerships
    and designers would use them, for in the dog eat dog word of cars every MPG
    and HP is a selling point.

    I have a K&N in my truck, I fell for the Hype years ago. Someday I will
    replace it, but after reading the filter study I'll never own another one.



    --
    Stephen W. Hansen
    ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
    ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
    ASE Undercar Specialist

    http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/bl_obd_main.htm
    http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
     
    Stephen H, Feb 9, 2006
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  2. Stephen H

    TeGGeR® Guest



    That's true, but most of the K&N displays I've seen in Toyota dealerships
    have something to do with TRD (Toyota Racing Development). TRD does in fact
    sell K&Ns as OEM, but they're intended for off-road use, whether they
    emphasize that or not.




    As you know, the dealership is just a franchise holder, just like
    McDonalds. They pay a fee for the right to display the automaker's logo,
    sell/repair those cars, and get training and documentation from the
    automaker. Other than that, they're free to use whatever the hell they like
    when repairing or accessorizing the car.

    From what I've seen, the use of aftermarket parts is very common at most
    new-car dealerships. That's the dealer responding to consumer gripes about
    the cost of OEM parts.




    Yes, but then again the bean counters do have a big role, as your Toyota
    parts guy says. There is constant pressure to get costs down, and not all
    decisions are good ones for parts longevity. If it were up to the
    engineers, the car would cost a fortune. If it were up to the accountants,
    the car would be a junk pile.


    They're not for use on engines that are expected to last 300,000 miles
    without burning oil.
     
    TeGGeR®, Feb 10, 2006
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  3. Stephen H

    John Horner Guest

    Dealerships sell all kinds of aftermarket crap because they can make
    money on it. You are never going to talk people out of magic air
    filters and elixer-of-youth oil treatments.

    P.T. Barnum was right!

    Sigh,
    John
     
    John Horner, Feb 13, 2006
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