Please walk me thru an alternator brush replacement for a '91 Integra gs

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by finding z0, Aug 14, 2005.

  1. finding z0

    finding z0 Guest

    Like where is the alt? Is it driver or pass. side. Is it hidden by the
    plastic baffles from below? I have the car jacked up one one side. Is
    this the assembly?
    http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/ipb/wizard.jsp?partner=ipb&clientid=
    alleurasianautoparts&baseurl=http://www.alleurasianautoparts.com/
    &cookieid=1L80TI5411L80TI540&year=1991&make=AC&model=INT-GS3-001&category=
    F&part=Alternator+Brush+Assy. Is there a better place to buy it? Can't
    find it locally. I threw in a new battery and the battery light and
    antilock brake lights are still on. I've read here the alt. is
    accessible from below and brush replacement is not hard, especially
    with the entire assembly. The only manual I have is for my olde '78
    civic. I'm in your hands. Cheers
     
    finding z0, Aug 14, 2005
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    finding z0 Guest

    Try this, you may have to paste it in.

    http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/ipb/wizard.jsp?partner=ipb&clientid=alleurasianautoparts&baseurl=http://www.alleurasianautoparts.com/&cookieid=1L80TI5411L80TI540&year=1991&make=AC&model=INT-GS3-001&category=F&part=Alternator+Brush+Assy.
     
    finding z0, Aug 14, 2005
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  3. finding z0

    finding z0 Guest

    Jacked both sides of the car up and found the alt. I can see 2 nuts,
    and feel a third. I'll pull off the neg battery pole, then try to get a
    wrench up in there. I feel like I'm talking to myself. Well, whatever
    works.....
     
    finding z0, Aug 14, 2005
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  4. Not available locally? Dealer?

    Judging from the pic of it....I'm not entirely sure that can be done without
    splitting the case. If it can, it's aVERY clever design
     
    Steve Bigelow, Aug 14, 2005
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  5. finding z0

    Elle Guest

    www.autozone.com under its free online repair guides has instructions and
    drawings for removing the alternator from your 91 Integra GS. Once you put
    in your car's year, make, and model, then go to the free repair guides, it's
    under "Engine and Engine Overhaul." I didn't see anything on brush
    replacement.

    If the site doesn't come up perfectly, refresh several times.

    But I am concerned that new brushes won't fix the problem. Are you having
    other symptoms, besides the two warning lights?
     
    Elle, Aug 14, 2005
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  6. finding z0

    finding z0 Guest

    Battery died and alt won't charge it. Battery guy said the batt. was
    good but the alt wasn't. Threw in a new battery and the battery and
    anti-lock lights still come on. Symptoms consistent with an alt.
    problem. Lights stay on. If I can manage this repair (while waiting to
    get a dealer app't) and it works, it's a cheap fix.
    Win/win/lose(dealer). Teggar has done this repair in 2002. I found his
    post. He had to unsolder the old and resolder the new brush in. His
    Integra was manual w/o AC. It's tight in there. I have a manual tranny
    with AC. The brush assembly should just pop in I suspect. I guess I'm
    asking for some details. Best place to buy, what about insulating
    washers, etc. Cheers
     
    finding z0, Aug 14, 2005
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  7. Why?
     
    Steve Bigelow, Aug 14, 2005
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  8. finding z0

    finding z0 Guest

    This car has eaten a battery every 4 yrs since '91. Thought I'd try the
    usual fix. $40 for a battery ain't bad. They gave me back $23 since it
    was waranteed. Probably the alt. has been undercharging all along? Now
    it's probably given up the ghost.
     
    finding z0, Aug 14, 2005
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  9. finding z0

    Elle Guest

    Your site
    http://www.alleurasianautoparts.com/ seems competitive.

    For my 91 Civic LX, Majestic online wants at least $185 to ship a
    remanufactured Denso alternator. The site says nothing about a core credit.

    Your site wants $158 (shipping of the reman'd alt is free) + the cost of
    shipping your old core back to them. This is for the same reman'd Denso
    alternator. The alternator weighs about ten pounds, so the shipping charge
    might be ten or twenty dollars (dunno).

    I would call the dealer for this one, since the various shipping costs might
    make the dealer about as competitive as the online sites.

    I was shopping around for a fender for my 91 Civic recently, and since
    shipping was so expensive, buying from the dealer was almost the same price.
     
    Elle, Aug 14, 2005
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  10. finding z0

    finding z0 Guest

    Working from underneath, after unbolting, disconnecting, staring,
    prying and getting covered with grease (this auto recently needed a new
    oil pan as the drain bolt was stripped), I finally got the back? cover
    off the alt.There's room for one eye and one hand under there. I then
    spied the brush assembly I'd seen on websites. Didn't know what held it
    in. I had to remove 2 screws to free up the brush assembly (one i
    could see and didn't know if it held the brushes, the other I found
    when the thing wouldn't let go on the other side. Afraid of stripping
    the first screw and ending my quest it finally came out.
    A diagram would've been helpful. Second one came out easy. Pulled the
    brush assembly. Nope, camel hair they're not. Thick metallic
    rectangles, spring loaded, and concave on the business end where they
    must make contact with a shaft to exchange juice. Nope, I've never
    taken apart an electric motor. I'll order the part and see if i can
    slam this thing back together. Whether it works or not i will have
    learned at least 3 things. One, if you work under a car yer gonna get
    dirty, and two, if you stare at something long enough you can usually
    figure it out while not necessarily avoiding eye strain. Then 3 the
    most important. Persistence, the ability to focus on something long
    after most people with good sense would've dropped. Wait! I already
    knew both those things.
     
    finding z0, Aug 14, 2005
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  11. What I'm getting from this is that your brushes don't appear to be worn out?
    If they still stick out above the assembly, that means they are getting good
    contact with the shaft. In other words this points to a problem with either
    the regulator, or an old glazed belt thats slipping without squealing.

    If your brushes were worn, you wouldn't see anything over the assembly at all.


    t
     
    T L via CarKB.com, Aug 15, 2005
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  12. finding z0

    finding z0 Guest

    Don't know. One is really shiny and the other is carbony like it wasn't
    making contact. You tell me? Is one enough to keep the alt running? The
    shiny one is about 3mm above the housing, and the dark one is about
    2mm.

    Any tips for how to get the screws back in with the brush assy with one
    hand in an obscure awkward position? I'll try tape. Magnetic
    screwdriver? Glue?
     
    finding z0, Aug 15, 2005
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  13. There should be holes in the new brushes, and a corresponding hole in the
    assembly. You can put a really thin wire like a paperclip or a sewing needle
    through these holes, it make the installation a breeze.

    Even if there are no holes in the new brushes, you can just push them below
    the holes inthe assembly and do the same thing.

    t
     
    T L via CarKB.com, Aug 15, 2005
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  14. finding z0

    finding z0 Guest

    It's alot simpler than that. The assy pops into place with the screw
    holes lined up. I have only to screw in the screws. Getting them up
    there w/o dropping them is the issue. It's awkward, obscure, and
    cramped up in there. One hole i can't even see. I will get it done
    though. Cheers
     
    finding z0, Aug 16, 2005
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