poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?

Date: Tues, Jan 17 2006 3:19 am

This doesn't make sense: It was TeGGeR who argued that
making "synthetic" from waste oil doesn't work BECAUSE
OF THE HIGH COSTS OF CLEANING IT. Cleaning used oil, I
responded, doesn't make synthetic oil. On the other
hand, I believe it is economical to make motor oil by
"rerefining" used oil. And if the used oil were ONLY
synthetic then the "rerefined" oil would be synthetic oil.


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I suspect a snippage problem here. The quote at top is mine. I was trying
to illustrate to the OP that in order to make synthetic from used oil you'd
need to clean it AND somehow separate the atoms and reassemble them
correctly into a synthetic. If I left the impression that you could make
"synthetic" just by cleaning old dino oil, that is not what I intended. My
post shown above should show that.

Chemically, as I understand it, just about anything's possible, but not
everything's economical.

 

I suspect a snippage problem here. The quote at top is mine. I was trying
to illustrate to the OP that in order to make synthetic from used oil you'd
need to clean it AND somehow separate the atoms and reassemble them
correctly into a synthetic. If I left the impression that you could make
"synthetic" just by cleaning old dino oil, that is not what I intended. My
post shown above should show that.

Chemically, as I understand it, just about anything's possible, but not
everything's economical.

 

Now that I think of it, what started it all was when the OP asserted that
recovering used oil would provide a "cheap" base stock with which to make
his "synthetic". I said it would hardly be a "cheap" way of getting ANY
kind of base stock. I don't recall saying that the cost of cleaning was the
only barrier to making synthetic from dino.

 

Now that I think of it, what started it all was when the OP asserted that
recovering used oil would provide a "cheap" base stock with which to make
his "synthetic". I said it would hardly be a "cheap" way of getting ANY
kind of base stock. I don't recall saying that the cost of cleaning was the
only barrier to making synthetic from dino.

 

This post is very long and has several quotes, which can
be confusing. For those who want to skip it and to make
it easier to find the end there is at the bottom a line
like this (saying END OF KARL'S POST).

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There is no quoting problem on my part; thank you.
But snipping of pertinent information amounts to
trickery:

The "synthetic oil from used oil" issue started with
a post by "T L via CarKB.com" in which he speculated
whether Walmart's tech 2000 is "reconditioned used oil."
"Rob B" then opined that sending used oil "back through
a refinement process" would be a cheap way to get
synthetic oil ("since it is engineered" he argues).
Here are the first posts, including mine:

Here is TeGGeR's first post regarding the costs of
refining used oil:

And here is TeGGeR's second post regarding the costs
of refining used oil:

Clearly, "Rob B" explicitely talked of recycling,
refinement, and cleansing of used oil to transform it
into synthetic oil, and so did TeGGeR, who emphasized
that it is "extremely expensive to recover post-
consumer motor oil." It was only after my posting,

that TeGGeR talked of chemical transformation. He may
had this in mind all the time but he didn't say so
until later.



================= END OF KARL'S POST ================



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This post is very long and has several quotes, which can
be confusing. For those who want to skip it and to make
it easier to find the end there is at the bottom a line
like this (saying END OF KARL'S POST).

================= XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ================

There is no quoting problem on my part; thank you.
But snipping of pertinent information amounts to
trickery:

The "synthetic oil from used oil" issue started with
a post by "T L via CarKB.com" in which he speculated
whether Walmart's tech 2000 is "reconditioned used oil."
"Rob B" then opined that sending used oil "back through
a refinement process" would be a cheap way to get
synthetic oil ("since it is engineered" he argues).
Here are the first posts, including mine:

Here is TeGGeR's first post regarding the costs of
refining used oil:

And here is TeGGeR's second post regarding the costs
of refining used oil:

Clearly, "Rob B" explicitely talked of recycling,
refinement, and cleansing of used oil to transform it
into synthetic oil, and so did TeGGeR, who emphasized
that it is "extremely expensive to recover post-
consumer motor oil." It was only after my posting,

that TeGGeR talked of chemical transformation. He may
had this in mind all the time but he didn't say so
until later.



================= END OF KARL'S POST ================



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That is correct, you also mentioned the costs of
collecting the oil. And what else you exactly wrote I
documented in my previous post.

Fact is that the discussion was about turning used oil
into synthetic by "cleaning" it. And if you remember
it differently then quote the relevant posts.



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That is correct, you also mentioned the costs of
collecting the oil. And what else you exactly wrote I
documented in my previous post.

Fact is that the discussion was about turning used oil
into synthetic by "cleaning" it. And if you remember
it differently then quote the relevant posts.



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OK, you win. I guess I've killed too many memory cells with beer. It's not
that important anyway.

 

OK, you win. I guess I've killed too many memory cells with beer. It's not
that important anyway.