Possible Flaw 2000 Accord EX

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Chuck Phillips, Sep 5, 2005.

  1. My son has the above car with the 5speed transmission. While he was at
    school last week, it slipped out of gear and ran into his boss's truck which
    caused over $1600+ in damages to my sons car. The Honda Recall site
    mentions an ignition problem that might allow the car to slip out of park
    but does not mention anything about the manual transmission. Has anyone
    heard about this problem with the manual?

    Please contact me at so I can start a total.
     
    Chuck Phillips, Sep 5, 2005
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    Grahame Guest

    A manual transmission should never be used as a parking brake, always but
    the stick in neutral and set the parking brake.
    Grahame
     
    Grahame, Sep 5, 2005
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    Jason Guest

    Grahame,
    Great post. I always use the parking brake and NEVER use the transmission
    as a parking brake. I guess that ALL people have not yet developed that
    habit.
    If someone failed to make use of the parking brake--the driver is to blame
    for any accident that is caused.
    Jason
     
    Jason, Sep 5, 2005
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    Seth Guest

    And how many clicks was his parking brake set at? And the parking brake was
    last adjusted and serviced when?
     
    Seth, Sep 5, 2005
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    jim beam Guest

    sadly untrue. parking brakes can relax and release as they cool if hot
    when set. for that reason, /always/ park a stick in gear, especially on
    a hill. oh, and for the record, the clutch interlock switch should
    prevent even the most forgetful from being able to start the car in gear.
     
    jim beam, Sep 5, 2005
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    Grahame Guest

    True, I should have said, a manual trans should never be used as a parking
    brake ALONE, set the parking brake and then put the stick in 1st or rev.
     
    Grahame, Sep 5, 2005
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    Brian Smith Guest

    One should not just place an automatic transmission in Park either. The
    parking brake is there for a reason (not just for playing on slippery roads
    <g>) and should be used to ensure the vehicle does not move.

    Brian
     
    Brian Smith, Sep 5, 2005
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    TomP Guest

    No.

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    TomP, Sep 10, 2005
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  9. The owner's manual for our Toyota Prius specifically says *not* to use the
    parking brake in freezing weather because of the risk of the parking brake
    freezing in the set position.

    Relying on the braking power of a parking brake will eventually lead to
    trouble, as neither the application force nor the effectiveness of the brake
    is assured. I know I'm not the only person to drive a while before noticing
    the parking brake is still on. Leaving the tranny in gear is all-or-nothing
    and does not significantly "soften" over the years. For anything but wet,
    freezing weather the best bet is to do both.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Sep 10, 2005
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  10. I have never known a manual tranny to pop out of gear when parked. It takes
    energy to move the shifter and there is just no place for that energy to
    come from. (Not so an automatic, where the parking pawl is not assured of
    seating in the first place.) The inescapable conclusion is that the shifter
    was left in neutral. It happens to everybody at times - I'm sorry your son's
    car was a victim of bad odds.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Sep 10, 2005
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    Grahame Guest

    Sorry Mike, but if you own a Honda Accord you would know that it has a very
    well sealed parking brake cable and can be relied upon in any weather. I
    have been using Honda parking brakes since 1984 and have never had one
    freeze.
    Grahame
     
    Grahame, Sep 11, 2005
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  12. ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Grahame" <>
    Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
    Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 7:31 AM
    Subject: Re: Possible Flaw 2000 Accord EX

    We have more trouble with the shoes freezing to the drums - not an issue
    with 4 wheel disks, but a major headaches with the drums. Water gets into
    the drums and will wick between the shoes and the drums if the parking brake
    is on. A couple minutes with a propane torch on the drum does the trick.

    To each their own, but the blanket advice to use parking brakes is not
    something I endorse.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Sep 11, 2005
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