power window problem

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by george taylor, Jul 31, 2004.

  1. My wife's 2000 Civic has powered windows. When the windows are mover past
    the half way down point the motor struggles to move the window up. I
    unhooked the window and the motor seems to move fine, but with eh window
    attached it really struggles. I have oiled the slide and cable that is used
    to move the window. Has anyone had this problem and what does it take to fix
    it.
    George Taylor
     
    george taylor, Jul 31, 2004
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    L Alpert Guest

    I'm not familiar with the motors for the windows, but I am familiar with
    drives and drive systems. It sounds as if there is something binding the
    drive mechanism that with the additional weight of the window it has a hard
    time handling (a gear or coupling or the track itself).

    It could also be the motor. Most small DC drive motors are of the brushed
    type (at least the lower cost ones). If the brushes get worn (or are
    defective) or if the interior of it gets a lot of dust from the brushes or
    other sources it can weaken the field that is used to drive the motor
    windings.
     
    L Alpert, Jul 31, 2004
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  3. george taylor

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    Alignment?
    Tony
     
    Tony Hwang, Jul 31, 2004
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    Jason Guest

    I agree with the intelligent poster that said the window might be binding
    on something. I just wanted to add that this could also mean that the
    motor is about ready to stop working. In many cases--with electric
    motors--they run poorly prior to the point where they stop working. In
    many cases, it's cheaper to replace the motor than it is to pay someone to
    repair the motor. If you have to replace the motor, your best option is to
    go to a auto junk yard and buy it. If you can install it yourself, you
    will save lots of money. Don't bother buying a replacement motor until you
    determine whether or not the window now in the door is binding. If it is
    binding, a different motor will not solve the problem.
     
    Jason, Jul 31, 2004
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  5. george taylor

    L Alpert Guest

    If it is a brushed motor, and you can get the motor manufacturer and model
    number, replacement brushes are only a few dollars (usually <$10, even for
    some of the 40-50HP DC drives I've worked with) and can be ordered from
    industrial companies like Dodge Newark.
     
    L Alpert, Aug 1, 2004
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    Bubba Guest

    My own experience w/dragging PW motors (bogging down under load) was that
    the armature contacts were loaded up with grease and hence the brushes
    couldn't achieve good contact. Dunno what you could use today, but 10
    years ago a couple good shots of Blue Shower (1.1.1 TriChlorethane) would
    flush out the goo.

    WD40 as a cleaning/flushing agent (not as a lubricant) might work.

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    L Alpert Guest

    Some electronics non residue contact cleaner may work as well.
     
    L Alpert, Aug 1, 2004
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