[QUOTE="In rec.autos.makers.honda davidki"] I am also looking at the Honda Accord, I have so far talked with the following dealer here in LA, it is a no hassle price and their Doc fee is only .00 +tax and License the guy Al is a straight shooter and very patient ,not pushy at all.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] check them out, here is the prices on the 3 cars I was considering, you may even be able to bargin a bit more once you finalize on the model you want for sure.. Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:38:04 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: Add to Address Book To: Subject: RE:2004 Acord prices 2004 Acord EX 4cy Auto MSRP 23,140.00 YOUR SPECIAL PRICE ,788.00***PLUS FEES 2004 Acord EX-L 4 Cy Auto MSRP 24,940.00 YOUR SPECIAL PRICE ,688.00***PLUS FEES 2004 Acord Ex -L V6 Auto MSRP 26,890.00 YOUR SPECIAL PRICE ,388.00***PLUS FEES[/QUOTE] If you pay one of those prices, you are getting a fine deal. I'm not saying that you wont be able to find a lower price. What I'm saying is that you should have no guilt paying those prices. But it will be worth it to call the Internet sales departments of a few other dealers and see if they can beat them.